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Crowdsourcing: BMTC Vajra Route info database - I

A few folks at Praja are trying to create some handy, cool and easy to understand maps for buses. In the initial phases their focus has been on the volvo routes.

Attached is the completed vajra map. The plan is that there will be one more map/side which will accompany this map, which shows each route individiually in a straight line - showing ALL the stops. Now to create this map, we need to collect data regarding the list of all the stops the bus stops at. This complete info is not mentioned on the BMTC site.

Can we do this true Praja style? Below is the first list of bus routes. We will make 2 more posts to cover all the vajra routes. We need to make sure that all the bus stops covered by the route are covered in "via places".

How to fill the table?

If you have bus stops to add, make sure you do that in the correct order. Suppose I have to add murugeshpallya to route number 335E. Since it comes between Manipal Hospital and AECS Layout. I will add it in between the two. Then I will add my praja-id under the "revised by" column. Since the bus route is not complete yet the answer to the last column is No. If you think the route is complete change that to yes so that we can get working on that.

335E

Majestic (KBS)

Kadugodi Bus Station

Mayo Hall, Manipal Hospital, Murugeshpallya, AECS Layout, ITPL

          shekhar_mittal  No

 

If you are having trouble adding it urself, just make a comment below this wiki and we will make the changes ourself.

 

 

Route Number Origin Destination Via Places Revised by Is it final?

2

Majestic (KBS)

J.P.Nagara PH VI

Corporation, JC Rd./Lalbagh Rd, RV Road, Lalbagh Main Gate, South End Circle, Jayanagara 4th Block, 9th Main Jayanagar, SSMRV, J P Ngr 15th Cross, Sarakki

 Narayan82  yes

195

Chandra Layout

Shivajinagara Bus Station

Income Tax Layout, Vijayanagara, Tol Gate, Magadi Road, Rajajinagar 6th Block, Okalipuram,  Majestic (KBS), Maharani College, Vidhan Soudha, GPO, Indian Express

SB_YPR  Yes

276

Majestic (KBS)

Vidyaranyapura

Central Talkies, Malleshwaram Circle, Malleshwaram 11th Cross, Malleshwaram, 15th Cross, Malleshwaram 18th Cross, IISC, Sadashivanagar Police Station, Devasandra, CPRI, MS Ramaiah Hospital, Kuvempu Circle, BEL Circle, BEL Hospital, Nanjappa Circle,...

 IDS  No

365

Majestic (KBS)

Bannerghatta National Park

Maharani College, Nruptunga Road,Richmond Circle, Shanthi Nagar, Wilson Garden Police Station,Dairy Circle, jayadeva fly over, Bilekahalli, Arekere Gate, Hulimavu Gate, Meenakshi temple, Kalena Agrahara, Gottigere, Bannerghatta

 Narayan82  Yes

505

Electronic City

ITPL

Bommanahalli,Agara,Marathahalli Bridge, Kundalahalli Gate,Sri Sri Sathya Sai Hospital.

   

201R

Srinagara

C.V.Raman Nagara

Mysore bank colony,Hosakerahalli, Kamakhya, Banashankari, Jayanagar 5th Block, Jayanagar 9th Block, BTM Layout, Madivala, Koramangla water tank, Dell, Domlur 100 ft road,Indiranagar 100ft road,CMH Road/CMH Hospital, Thippasandra Cross, BEML Gate, Bagmane Tech park.

 SB_YPR  No

258C

Majestic (KBS)

Nelamangala

Central Talkies, Malleshwaram Circle, Malleshwaram 11th Cross, Malleshwaram, 15th Cross, Malleshwaram 18th Cross, IISC, Yeshwanthpura, Goraguntepalya, Peenya, Jalahalli Cross, Dasarahalli, Makali, Binnamangala

 SB_YPR No

276G

Vidyaranyapura

Electronic City

Sadashivanagara Police Station, Maharani's College, Cauvery Bhavan,Shantinagar,Wilson garden,Dairy circle,Silk board,Bommanhalli,Singasandra

   

305D

Majestic (KBS)

channasandra

Halsoor, KGF, ITPL

   

331A

Shivajinagara Bus Station

Kadugodi Bus Station

Trinity Circle, Command Hospital, Domlur, Kodihalli, Manipal Hospital, Murugeshpalya, HAL, Marathahalli, Kundalahalli Gate, Graphite India Ltd, ITPL, Hope Farm,

 SB_YPR  No

333P

Majestic (KBS)

ITPL

Corporation, Military Accounts, HAL Main Gate,

   

333R

Majestic (KBS)

Marathahalli Bridge

Maharani's College, Corporation,Domlur HAL Main Gate

   

333T

Nagarabhavi BDA Complex

ITPL

Pappareddypalya, Ambedkar College, Nagarbhavi Circle, Chandra Layout, Income Tax Layout, Vijayanagara, Tol Gate, Magadi Road, Rajajinagar 6th Block, Okalipuram,  Majestic (KBS), Maharani College, Corporation, Mayo Hall, Command Hospital, Domlur, Kodihalli, Manipal Hospital, Murugeshpalya, HAL Kalyanamantapa, Marathahalli, Kundalahalli Gate

 SB_YPR  Yes
333W Majestic (KBS) Doddakenahalli Wipro Corporation, Richmond circle, Domlur, Manipal, HAL, Marathahalli, Belandur ss87 No

335E

Majestic (KBS)

Kadugodi Bus Station

Corporation, Mayo Hall, Command Hospital, Domlur, Kodihalli, Manipal Hospital, Murugeshpalya, HAL, Marathahalli, Kundalahalli Gate, AECS Layout, ITPL, Hope Farm

 SB_YPR  No

335EA

Yeshwantpura

ITPL

Swastik ,KR Circle, Corporation

   

356C

Majestic (KBS)

Electronic City

Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden Police Station, Dairy Circle, Madiwala, Bommanahalli,

 SB_YPR  No

356M

Majestic (KBS)

Anekal

Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden Police Station, Dairy Circle, Madiwala, Bommanahalli, Electronic City, Narayana Hrudayalaya, Chandapura

 SB_YPR  No
356N Majestic (KBS) Narayana Hrudayalaya Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden Police Station, Dairy Circle, Madiwala, Bommanahalli, Electronic City, SB_YPR  No
365 J Majestic (KBS) Jigani Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden, Dairy Circle, MICO check post, IIMB, Arekere Gate, Hulimavu, Meenakshi Temple, Gottigere, Bannerghatta SB_YPR No
 365  Majestic(KBS)  Bannerghatta national park Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden, Dairy Circle, MICO check post, IIMB, Arekere Gate, Hulimavu, Meenakshi Temple, Gottigere, Bannerghatta SB_YPR  Yes
356Q Majestic(KBS) Electronic city Corporation,South end, Jayanagar 4th block, BTM, Silk board, Bomanahalli        ss87  No
10 Majestic(KBS) Avalahalli BDA Lyt  Cottonpet/Goodshed Road, Chamarajapet, Hanumantanagar, Srinagar, Muneshwara block Srivastava Yes
45G Majestic(KBS) Chennammana Kere Cottonpet/Goodshed Road, Chamarajapet, Hanumantanagar, SBM Bank colony, Hosakerehalli Cross Srivatsava Yes

360B

 Majestic(KBS)

 Attibelle

Corporation,Shantinagar,Wilson garden,Dairy circle,Silk board,Bommanahalli,Electronic city,Chandapura   ss87  No
362E Shivajinagar Electronic city Brigade road junction,elgin,Adugodi,Madiwala,Bommanahalli  ss87  No
365P Majestic (KBS) Anekal Corporation, Shantinagar, Wilson Garden, Dairy Circle, MICO check post, IIMB, Arekere Gate, Hulimavu, Meenakshi Temple, Gottigere, Bannerghatta, Jigani
 SB_YPR  Yes
373G Srinagar Electronic city Hanumanthanagar, Basavanagudi, Jayanagar 4th block, BTM, Silk board, Bommanahalli    
373GR Rajarajeshwari nagar  Electronic City Nayandahalli, BTM, Silk board, Bommanahalli     
375A Kengeri Shirke Electronic city  Kengeri, JSS, Chennasandra, Uttarahalli, Banashankari, BTM, Silk board    
402T Yelahanka Satellite Town ITPL Hebbal, Mekhri Circle, Majestic, Corporation, Domlur, HAL, Marathahalli    
411L Shantinagar ITPL Wilson garden, Shantinagar, Dairy circle, Koramangla Water tank, DELL, HAL, Marathahalli    
500A Hebbal Banashankari Nagavara, Hennur Cross, Kalyana Nagar, Channasandra, Tin Factory, K.R.Puram Rly. Station, Marathahalli, Bellandur, Agara, Silk board, BTM Layout, Jayanagar 9th Block, Jayanagar 5th Block  SB_YPR  No

 Below is the live view of the spreadheet meant for preparing a feed for Google Transit. If you want to contribute open this link in a separate window.

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silkboard's picture

ss87, bheema

still not able to edit the wiki / gyan pages (like this one)?

Bheema - why not help this website with your tech skills? We need some ideas to have better tools for preparing crowd sourced documents here. May be an integration with google docs can do it.

Bheema.Upadhyaya's picture

Updating in progress - single handedly for now

 @ SB_YPR,

 

Thanks for your support. I have started some groundwork for this. You can find it here.(Takes time to load) This is google spread sheet, anyone can edit. But its little complex. Now what we need to do is update co-ordinates for each bus stop in sheet name "stops.txt". Thats little tough for a layman. Hence I am creating a small webpage where people can click and co-ordinates shall be saved quickly. I will post more details soon. But you have a look into progress anytime here.

" My mantra to public bodies=> Enable->Educate->Enforce. Where does  DDC  fit?"
SB_YPR's picture

Great concept!

Excellent idea to have bus routes by crowdsourcing. We should be able to complete a more comprehensive list this way, with collective effort. I've updated several of the routes myself.

Any updates on the Google Transit synchronisation?

 

~~~~

Manish.

Bheema.Upadhyaya's picture

Update on Google Transit integration

 Completed a sample for Google Transit for route 171 as a proof of concept. Check at http://picasaweb.google.c.... This means that I have understood technically to implement BMTC data into GTFS(as Google calls it) format. Further studying at Google website to integrate cost data as well.

" My mantra to public bodies=> Enable->Educate->Enforce. Where does  DDC  fit?"
ss87's picture

 @Sekhar   Yes sir,I still do

 @Sekhar

 

Yes sir,I still do face the problem-or else I would have uploaded the routes here

All the answers

Apologies for the delay in response. Here are my thoughts on all the queries, discussions.

I would agree that there is a need a need for this or something better on these lines. I guess you posted this to help keep the pdf map updated.

I would rather propose that we build a few PT apps

1. Crowdsource BusStop Location and Bus Routes (for Vajra and the rest!!) on Google Maps.

2. A small app to show a set of routes on Google maps (routes available from crowdsourecd data)

3. A route search application - with route frequency etc crowdsourced.

 

Its elaborate work. Once we finalise the functioanlities and have a framework, we should have these in a couple of months. Whatsay?

It better to do this on a new google app called google transit rather than doing it directly on google transit. And Praja helping BMTC do that is also in the pipeline. Jenny is in talks with Mithila and PK Garg. Will post updates as soon as I have them. With all the techies that are there on Praja this is not a tough job at all. What is complicated is setting up a process within BMTC so that once we do it the app stays up to date.

Btw, curious to know who created this visualistion. This is different from the one done when Bus day was being initiated.

Narayan

Shehkhar, You may want to check the Bus Day Project Pages (http://praja.in/en/busday). Check out the files which have the Bus List, frequency. All it might need is to add the new services that were introduced after the BD. This list has been verified by many including BMTC.

You may also check with BMTC contacts for the efforts that might have been initiated by others. Check with SB also?

We already reached out to BMTC folks on this. They directed us to bmtctravelinfo. The info I have posted in the wiki is from there. What we need is comprehensive list of bus stops, not just major stops. Dont know whether BMTC has that info handy.

It was my privilage to join praja team to meet BMTC official few months back. There we had thought about idea of integrating with Google Transit. Currently I am studying the link provided by Google. I think this right time to some one interested to go through same, so that we can build database which is compatible with Google and we can use it for some other areas too.

@Srivatsa, can we discuss on this?

I have done a feasibility study of this. Looks very easy to do only if we get support from BMTC. How about we discuss this? We "may" have some small funding to get this done as well. But too soon for that.

 

Map is good! but we ca make it better by introducing even the marcopolo or the AC suvarna routes into them which also cater to the IT secotr and the non-residential areas-there are many of such marcopolos runnign in the city too. We should also include the vayu vajras as now people are allowed to travel by them and they also get full in the peak hours and people wait to board them at the stops

I still have not put up all the bus routes on this wiki. It was getting too huge to handle. Will make an additional wiki for rest of the routes.

 Suddenly the edit option has gone-so unable to add the routes

 

Do you still see the issue?

-Shekhar

 

 

 


vinod_shankar's picture

Busroutes.in at the our Mobilicity

 busroutes.in made a presentation at our mobilicity event last year, where they had implemented routes of chennai using crowd souring and open map API's.  They were planning to launch it for bangalore, but i suppose lack of data and resources is hindering them from doing it for bangalore.  May be we thinking jointly executing the same for bangalore.

 

ss87's picture

 Suddenly the edit option has

 Suddenly the edit option has gone-so unable to add the routes

 

For all AC buses running in Bangalore kindly refer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_buses_Bangalore

 

Have managed to update it as far as my knowledge goes-If any bus routes have been spotted kindly add them too. 

Bushan's picture

500K

How to add new routes in the list 500K should be added its is the most used route in bangalore always it will be jampack so it should be added.

silkboard's picture

Yes yes, we will add more, but

Let us start with something, and lets do that by putting all Vajra routes on a map.

ss87, you are very right. Internet is likely to be looked up for BMTC information by potential commuters of vajra as well as other a/c services. I would say even Big10. Lets do a proof of concept with Vajra and add rest one by one.

ss87's picture

 Map is good! but we ca make

 Map is good! but we ca make it better by introducing even the marcopolo or the AC suvarna routes into them which also cater to the IT secotr and the non-residential areas-there are many of such marcopolos runnign in the city too. We should also include the vayu vajras as now people are allowed to travel by them and they also get full in the peak hours and people wait to board them at the stops

Bheema.Upadhyaya's picture

I am happy to join efforts

 It was my privilage to join praja team to meet BMTC official few months back. There we had thought about idea of integrating with Google Transit. Currently I am studying the link provided by Google. I think this right time to some one interested to go through same, so that we can build database which is compatible with Google and we can use it for some other areas too.

@Srivatsa, can we discuss on this?

" My mantra to public bodies=> Enable->Educate->Enforce. Where does  DDC  fit?"
kbsyed61's picture

@shekhar - Check the Bus Day Project Pages!

Shehkhar, You may want to check the Bus Day Project Pages (http://praja.in/en/busday). Check out the files which have the Bus List, frequency. All it might need is to add the new services that were introduced after the BD. This list has been verified by many including BMTC.

You may also check with BMTC contacts for the efforts that might have been initiated by others. Check with SB also?

Syed

Srivatsava's picture

Who created this visualisation?

Btw, curious to know who created this visualistion. This is different from the one done when Bus day was being initiated.

-Srivatsava V

Srivatsava's picture

Crowdsouring tool on Map?

Shekar,

I would agree that there is a need a need for this or something better on these lines. I guess you posted this to help keep the pdf map updated.

I would rather propose that we build a few PT apps

1. Crowdsource BusStop Location and Bus Routes (for Vajra and the rest!!) on Google Maps.

2. A small app to show a set of routes on Google maps (routes available from crowdsourecd data)

3. A route search application - with route frequency etc crowdsourced.

 

Its elaborate work. Once we finalise the functioanlities and have a framework, we should have these in a couple of months. Whatsay?

PS: 1. I have read the RTO post and still putting this question.

2. And yes, we have Siddarth (ss87), who can be 'approving' if the crowdsourced info is correct!! 

-Srivatsava V

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