Nospace infront of Ecospace

First, out of the 3 lanes in each carriage way on the ORR, physically barricade one lane for a bus+SLR lane. That lane will then move more people faster while people in cars will rot in the other 2 lanes.

Second, double track & add more suburban trains on the yeswantpur hosur line that runs parallel to the ORR, including behind ecospace.

Third, the people in cars dont deserve a solution they deserve contempt & ridicule. So ignore the jam the congestion is a natural disincentive. 

Traffic is increasing each passing day on the stretch of ORR between Silkboard and Marathhalli and it will make matters worse as more and more office space and buildings are being readied. It is painful to see people travelling in Fortunner, Innova, XUV -- with a single occupancy. 

I already see it going out-of-control where traffic is fluidic and people drive in all directions throwing each and every rule in the book to the wind. 

The only option looks like is to ban all private vehicles and allow only public vehicles (BMTC, private buses), taxis on this stretch (between Silkboard and Hebbal) during peak hours -- 8 to 11AM and 5 to 8PM. Running additional buses on this stretch will also be helpful.

 

The only option looks like is to ban all private vehicles and allow only public vehicles (BMTC, private buses), taxis on this stretch (between Silkboard and Hebbal) during peak hours -- 8 to 11AM and 5 to 8PM. Running additional buses on this stretch will also be helpful.

Agree totally. Besides, promote alternate public transport, like ZipGo (check here).

Don't quite support barricading - that's similar to BRT.

Why are 5% people getting 100% of the lanes?

I'm inclined to apply the reverse logic here... Use a single dedicated line for cars only and all other lines for public transport. 

Sadly, Indian mentality doesn't allow a rule to be followed automatically when published, but only by forceful enforcement.

 

We are sadly still debating solutions when most already know what will work - & can be put in place quickly. BRT on ORR is an urgent priority, period. As IDS correctly mentioned, a commuter rail track also passes nearby & can easily be used with some augmentation. Having trains & buses that enjoy uninterrupted right of way are the priorities. Instead, we have stupid traffic police & silly city planners trying to address street congestion issues that will never end since traffic will always keep increasing in the absense of efficient public transport since it operates in mixed traffic.

The quicker commute was 55% of bangalores trips not being made by public transport carrying majority of the people. If they all got cars because public transport was not available forget about anything called commute. Im surprised by the intelligence in the analysis that concludes bandh scenario will solve the commute problem. We should be wary of taking inputs from people who cant even analyse problems properly.

It looks like a handful of people in cars who constitute 5% of the modal share are so smitten by surrounding themselves with 1 tonne metal monsters that they think they can speak for the rest of the population on forums like these, Including such brainwaves as getting private mafioso to run bus services.

We can also think of allowing private vehicles with even and odd registration numbers alternatively. This should also reduce traffic to some extent. I suppose this is currently followed in some streets in Beijing, China.

 

@Vasanth - promote usage of office shuttles even for non registered users

Apparently, that's what this ZipGo is all about - will be interesting to see how it develops.

Vasanth, Surface light rail is different from light rail you have quoted, you may want to read the approach note here. Putting trains on pillars is useless, destructive and waste of money, especially small ones like metro & mono etc.

Also, Im not too worried about BRT taking off as long as there is a dedicated corridor built for all buses which can be shared by surface light rail. 

I think BRT on ORR may be a little too late now as the road has been taken over by marauding car wallahs. Which is why its important to reserve bus lanes on any (& all) new primary roads at an early stage before it gets taken over by private vehicles. Traffic signal delays at Emc2 is already huge & is set to get worse. If only they had worked on BRT when the flyovers were built, we would not have seen this situation now.

Now, they'll start saying metro will be built on ORR - & it'll take for ever to build it, making life miserable for commuters for decades.

getting private mafioso to run bus services.

I had stated here that I had begun to see the so-called 'think-tanks' as part of the 'confederation of vested interest groups' working towards perpetuating the status quo. Apparently, they are far more than that. Beyond that, I do not wish to repeat myself.

At a CiSTUP workshop, a few years back, a certain gentleman made a PPT presentation on Ahmedabad/ Baroda JanMarg, and other models of BRT. When a CiSTUP research associate questioned him on the suitability of the model for Bengaluru, he was totally at a loss. Thereafter, he just vanished - says quite something, right! Apparently, he was from an event management company - that's professional approach for you.

From the times when Dr A S Joglekar used to be a regular on Praja (he was vehemently opposed to BRT, and nobody dare brand him a lobbyist, least of all a mafioso), we have been debating BRT. A summary of it may be accessed here. I'll end with the following quote from a study on the subject by a research team from Centre for Urban Equity, CEPT University, Ahmedabad (accessible here): "The study raises the pertinent question of whether public transport ought to be viewed as a technological fix or as part of a wider solution of urban or social issues."

I'd now like to keep off the sbject, and concentrate on other equally important issues.

we have been debating BRT. 

No we were not... only you were. We were talking about dedicated corridor for buses & surface trains. Like I said you dont understand what is being discussed, you are only discussing whats in your head, privatisation. Probably a stint in an event management company is in order.

Marking a lane as priority lane and people following it --> Goodness me, miracles don't happen. In fact, on the stretch of ORR from Agara Junction to Iblur Junction, traffic police have already marked the left most service lane as a "BUS LANE -- ONLY FOR BMTC". Hardly this gets followed. Only brute force works. 

ORR stretch is getting worse with each passing day. With more and more office space getting added every month, not sure where this will get to. Some tangible action needs to be done fast.