Mangalore Bangalore Train - Will it be canceled

This is yet another reason that makes me feel that we are 'soft' people & the railways are exploiting the situation without any care.

This has to be fought against tooth & nail.

As Narayan and Bangalore Guy have said, effective use of RTI can expose lot of rotten things in Railways.

The demand for this train is such that even doubling the fare to make it on par with the volvo fare will not reduce the waiting list.

The timings are delayed a lot. For example, Bangalore-Mysore with Stop in Mandya and 2 crossings can be covered in 2hrs 15 minutes and Mysore-Hassan in 2 hrs. Engine direction change in Mysore and Hassan should take 15 minutes.  I also have given an example via Arsikere Line. I think there are lot of trains running in that route during night times like Hampi Express, Shimoga Express, Rani Chennamma etc.. because of which SWR has taken the Mysore route.

If direct Hassan route is started, as said in the post, it is not possible to cover the distance of 190 kms in 2 hrs. It needs 3 hours atleast.

Although there is rail link to Shimoga, there is only a passenger train that runs in the day time and a night train. A non-stop train from Shimoga early in the morning to leave Shimoga at 5:30 and reach Bangalore at around 10:30 with limited stops in Bhadravathi, Birur, Arsikere and Tumkur is needed. Again the train should leave Bangalore in the evening at around 5:00 PM and reach Shimoga at 10:00 PM.

Now people have to depend on Volvos or cars for faster travel which can be afforded only by rich.

Hi Bloggers

Here is a great news which would shock all the people of karnataka.  On wedenesday i was one of the passenger of the YPR-MANGLORE(6517) journey travelling in the S4 compartment. The train was late when in started from Bangalore and was having stoppages at all stations giving way to all other trains.  It reached Mandya by 11.30 and at around 11.45 it again stopped for the seventh time in yeliuru station for lack of signal. Then a team of masked men numbering 6 entered the compartment and started looting the people.  they had come with "long", "macchu" and other weapons.  Mind it no guns or revolvers.  All local made weapons.  And started snatching the ornaments and money from the passengers.  The shocked people who were irritated by the delay and lack of proper food on the train before knowing what could happen had given all their ornaments and before anybody could know what is happening they had absconded with the loot amounting to around 30 lakhs. Then the people pulled the chain and the incident came to light.

To all our astonishement none of the TT was found in the said compartments. How could it happen.  All started blaming that it was the pre planned drama from the railway department itself.  And sat on strike till one oclock. Then the police came and later on in Mysore the complaint was lodged at the Railway police station in Mysore.

Here we found several intersting factors.

1.  It was told by most of the passengers that it has been a routine practice to delay this train so that the people would get tired of this journey and in turn passenger traffic would decrese which in turn will make the trains cancel.

2.  There are other trains moving on this route which has large number of tamil busienss men travelling with lakhs of rupees jewelly moving to Chennai.  Setting aside those trains how could the robbers come to the train where only family members with credit cards travel. Here point to be taken note of is its only the ladies ornaments were stolen.

3.  Where did the TT's go when the incident took place.

4. It was also told that it is one of the enactment created to raise fear in the minds of the people.  This was quite visible on friday night.  After hearing the news nearly 70 sleeper seats were cancelled on the Friday trains moving from Bangalore to mangalore.  Of course the train was equipped with 6 police officials with revolvers.  The main conribution of these police people was that they stopped all food suppliers from entering in to train.  Police protection was provided till mysore only. All the six officials got down at mysore. 

5.  All the passengers were of the opinion that this is nothing but the lobby to make the poeple move away from the train.

These points certainly prove that the trains will get cancelled from the first of june.

Jai Karnataka! 

Prakash,

sorry to hear about the trauma you and the other passengers had to face. I am not sure if there is a conspiracy behind it but this is nevertheless an undesirable incident.

One long term solution for this is to have doors of the compartment open/close only from the driver. Like the metro trains and like the normal trains in other countries like UK. That prevents anyone from getting in or out except at stations.

Meanwhile, here are a couple of reports on this incident in newspapers. DH report and TOI report (beware of pop-ups). -Shastri

First thing to do is - confirm this news. Here is SWR website. The website has the contacts of SWR CPRO (Cheif PR Officer):

• Phone +91 836 2289920
• Email: cpro [at] southwesternrailway [dot] in

I called up the number a few times just now. No pick up, will retry. I have sent an email with the question on the YPR-MAQ train 'rumors'.

Can some more folks try and reach the PR officer?

Once SWR confirms these rumors, let us plan something, RTI first, and a PIL if a good # of members are willing to join hands.

If a train between MLR and BLR is not making profit, lets stop all the other trains running between BLR and any other place. Lets even stop this MLR-BLR train.

The center would equally be involved in this lobby in my opinion. If this train aint making profits, its the center's responsibility to make it earn those profits. Not give up the business so easily like a coward. But clearly the center's intentions need a tit-for-tat.

Actually the need for all those trains that connect BLR to most other towns in India, is from people using those trains to come to BLR, than go out of BLR to those places, unless of course these very people are returning to their homes for Holi, or Deepavali or whatever!

There are fast running trains between any random place in TN and anywhere in KAR. There's a very meagre number of trains running within KAR, and whichever is, is subject to this kind of lobbying. But that is not the case with trains that run within TN, lets say.

We NEED to protest this phenomenon with vigour. Let us start with this - saying if you stop MLR-BLR trains, stop all *-BLR trains - trains running from anywhere in the world to BLR. This will then show where the REAL profit lies!!

-Nijavaada

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This seems like smoke and mirrors.  Indian Railways has certain social obligations apart from a profit motive.  Not every train that it runs is probably profitable. 

The tracks and train depreciation itself is an irrelavant cost to this as those costs will anyway be incurred.  Add a Western Ghat surcharge to make up the maintenance costs.  This seems too close to the opening of the Shiradi Ghat section to not make associations,

There are several ways to improve the margins on this train.  Add a couple of ACII or ACIII coaches.  Occupancy cannot be a big issue considering the data given by SB and Anusha. 

I am getting in touch with a friend who used to be in the Indian Railways to find out about how to put in a proper RTI query that cannot be dodged.

Srivathsa

At the outset i do not wish to sound that i am blowing the trumpet for any political party. But when viewed objectively, Shri Narendra Modi has done a remarkable job of upgrading all major roads in Gujarat and the Railways as well.

The bus lobby is extremely well organised in KA. Vijay Sankeshwar of Vijayanand Travels openly flouts all rules by parking his buses in Bengaluru on no parking zones.

The only power we have with us is sites like praja from which we can pass on the information and start campaining.

A fragile ecosystem of the westernghats is already being damaged by vehicular traffic, such decissions will bring even more vehicles onto the roads!

Imagine a oil tanker brushes a iron ore carrying truck and there is a jam through the night and the slow moving traffic disturbs the home of slender loris and makes it too hot for the orchids to grow on tree tops!

Where is ESG and other environment groups..they can join in to stop the move!

Btwn Edakumeri track trek is still a unforgetable dream for nature lovers!

In an age when we are thinking of trains that do not pollute and increase public transportation that is more earth friendly and people friendly there are some who just want to make money and dont care anything more than themselves..

I think Trains are the best option for people - infact we should moot for a speed train to connect mangalore to boost economy - Mangalore port can be used more efficiently with trains and not trucks and busses - I am Strongly against busses.

Blrsri, Santsub, Narayan - about environmental degradation of the western ghats ---

I think you have a very valid point. Your point is solid enough for a PIL that can be won on this count alone, let alone traffic figures (which can be obtained by RTI).

Anusha - I tried what you suggested - after 30th/May, all are available (not 26th). So, it looks like 'D-day' for closure is 31st onwards.

Can anyone give the links wherein we can post the links so that more and more people join their hands in writing their opinions or contacts. 

Anusha 

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Hi All writers

Read all the comment and was really happy to know at least there are some people who are really in need of this train. Let me tell you some important benifits of this train and how the people are taking dis advantge of the weakness.  The facts i disclose may be shocking and even it hurts to a true Indian.

This train links to Subramanya which is the holy place of the Hindus and nearly 43% of the people get down here.  You will be shocked to know that there is a lobby here which makes the train to come only after 6.30.  One mr V.Bhat(name hidden) who is the key person in the temple has control over the boardings in the hotel.  So if the "Bhaktas" come after 7 they will be missing their first pooja which would be performed between 5 to 6.30.  So they need to stay in the hotels for a day and the hotel cost has increased 40% after the opening of this train. There are so many complaints on this person but it is irrelavant in this blog.  So these people have tipped off the station crew who will not give the clearance signal even if there are no crossings.

The train should move at a max of 35 Kmph on ghat section which moves only at 8 to 10 Kmph on the pretext of "peoples life is precious".  Does the railway department think that the peoples time is not precious.  Economists where have you gone.  Take the human hour loss  and write pls.  Total average passengers plying on this train to and fro per day is more than 2,600.

The peole are made to suffer for loss of food.  You wont be getting anything to eat until you reach subramanya.  Now after the robbery they have deployed 4 security officers who ask all the vendors to get down of the train once the train starts.  Before the robbery the train used to stop at Kengeri,Bidadi,Hejjala,Ramnagar and was reaching mysore by 12.30.  After the deployment of security people it reaches mysore by 11.45 how come ? Because the security people have instructed that the train should move in time so that these security personnels will have to be deployed for other services. What a pity.  We see so many RPF personnel strolling all over the station making money from tea vendors fruit vendors.  Are they not capable of handling these issues. A small request to the security people.  Please see that your revolvers fire properly and they have bullets in them.

When we were in school and colleges or even in our professional career now, we are asked the reason for our delay to join the duty.  There will be at the max one or two excuses.  Is anyone not surprised to see that the train is delayed everyday.  Just because it is run by the Government can it come and go at any time like the government officials in government office. Even from the facts i learned from the loco driver is that there is unwritten order from the railway department to delay the train by driving it slow. Because this was the loco pilot who was driving the vehicle before time to Bangalore that is 6.30 in the morning before april 13.

How come the locomotive driver need to horn and wake up the station crew to get the green signal when this is the only loco moving on the track at that time. 

How could the train get delayed as soon as the vacation started.   It looks like the railway people want to show the natures beauty to the passengers.  Sir, let me clear to you the people who move on this train are seriously workholic and not time passers. 

Still there are many more points.  Write them after hearing your comments.

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Time is ticking out yeah
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Anusha 

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Hi All,

Railways must be worried about how the track conditions will be during monsoon and may be worried about the land sliding since this is the first monsoon after the BG inaguration on this route.

As I said earlier that MG or NG trains are well suited for hilly areas and they were specifically developed for that. Unigauge project which changed the line to BG resulted in loss of train service for almost 12 years and now the train is running with full of uncertainities.

During MG line, only one engine used to haul the train even in the ghat sections and was moving along without any worries of landsliding for many years. Now, BG train has to be hauled by 3 engines.

It would have been nice that they should have retained MG line only here with frequent trains between Hassan and Mangalore with connecting train provided to all other cities from Hassan.

Now, railways has to go in with lighter rails to avoid land sliding atleast during monsoon or permanently. Light trains are built of steel compartments. Even the sleeper coaches are more heavy than normal coaches. A light train with semi sleeper bus like coach something of the sort of delhi metro may be the answer to avoid the land sliding during monsoon. Light train coaches are something like Delhi metro coaches. In Switzerland they use light trains along hilly areas.

Railways can even think of handing it over to Konkan railways. They can improve the existing track or they can do a new survey between Sakleshpur and Subramanya and can lay new tracks like they have done in Konkan railways which is a wonder. Until then existing track should not be disturbed. New track should be built parallely.

This line during monsoon may not be practical for goods trains. It is better to have goods running from some other lines during monsoon.

The pathetic story of a lethargic public, easy-going and good-for-nothing elected representatives and unscrupulous business lobbies... 

 Air and rail have always been the two basic modes of transport for decades, why, they can even be termed basic rights. And these, ironically, are the facilities, which the people of Mangalore have to fight for at various stages.

First it was the international flight to Mangalore. There were several promises and an umpteen number of deadlines. However, finally, the untiring efforts by activists and 'blessings' of ministers ensured that the dream was realized. The Dubai–mangalore flight landed and it paved the way for flights from other stations.

The other need is the railway line for several years. There have been vociferous pleas from regular commuters for several years for the resumption of Mangalore-Bangalore passenger service, which was discontinued over ten years ago. Over the past three months, about a dozen dates were announced but all of them got promptly 'derailed'.

Whose lobby is behind it and who has to suffer because of it?

Are our so-called ministers and elected representatives sleeping

The railway track between Sakleshpur and Mangalore is ready in broad-gauge format now, say officials. But why hasn't the passenger service been resumed, although goods trains, much bigger and heavier than passenger trains, are running without any problems? There seems to be no answer.

Mangalore has the maximum connectivity facilities than any other district headquarters in the state. It is one of only few cities connected by air, rail, water and road transport. The city has an international airport as well as a modern, all-weather port. But, paradoxically, it lacks a good transportation facility with the state capital.

The national highway 48, which connects Mangalore and Bangalore, is never free from lunar crater-like potholes. The Shiradi ghat stretch on this highway is a virtual nightmare for vehicle drivers. On the other hand, not a day passes without accidents taking place on this part of the road.

Sadashiva, earlier assistant road transport officer (ARTO) of Puttur sub division, had identified 13 dangerous spots in the National Highway 48 under his jurisdiction. 

He had also written to the National Highway authorities to take some steps to prevent accidents. But no step has been taken by the National Highway authorities.

The bullet tankers carrying gas and the lorries carrying timber and iron have worsened the condition of the road and proved hazardous to other vehicles plying on this highway.

But one can't take recourse to relief by travelling by train, for the simple reason that the railway route between Bangalore and Mangalore has not yet been re-introduced.
 
The rails between Mangalore and Sakleshpur were dismantled in 1996 for the purpose of conversion to broad-gauge. Interestingly, the rails were not laid aside for re-assembly, but they mysteriously vanished from the tracks, lock, stock and barrel.

It was being said in reliable circles that the rails had been taken away to Hassan, an adjoining district, which has powerful, go-getter politicians, whereas Dakshina Kannada has to be content with politicians and elected representatives who are only specialized in raising petty issues and diverting people's attention away from burning social issues and dire necessities.

Owing to the apathy and lack of political will of the people's representatives here, the work was unnecessarily delayed for a long time. On the other hand, carrying out work on the Ghat section between Sakleshpur and Subrahmanya was the biggest challenge for the contractors. On the one side it is a dense forest. On the other, the workers who were engaged there showed reluctance to work on long schedules, owing to heavy rain and exposure to diseases and wild animals, say the officials.

The ultimate challenge that the railway department had was to get a green signal from the Railway Safety Commission which comes under the union civil aviation ministry. But there were hurdles. The tracks between Subrahmanya and Sakleshpur, particularly at a point called Shiribagilu, are being regarded as unsafe for passenger trains, especially during the rainy seasons. As if to prove the point and to make matters worse, a railway engine and few wagons of a goods train got derailed and fell into a gorge a few months ago. 

But the technical staff here says that such incidents here took place not because of the track problem, but because of the human errors on the part of the train motor men. According to them, the track here is absolutely safe.  

Already the track sustains the load of goods trains which are about 5 times heavier than passenger trains. Trains with 60 wagons and 5 engines are plying on this track every day. But the passenger train would have a maximum of only 18 wagons.

On the other hand, the Railway Safety Commission has given a green signal for resuming passenger trains on the route. Now the only question is, why our people representatives are not keen on demanding resumption of the passenger train.

The railway officers here directly blame the the private bus-owners' lobby as one of the main reasons for this delay. If the passenger trains to Bangalore begin operating, the bus-owners who run their buses to Bangalore would suffer a heavy, back-breaking loss.

It is an open secret that most of these 'luxury' buses are owned by politicians and big-time business interests. The train fare between Mangalore and Bangalore could be less than Rs 100 whereas passengers are shelling out Rs 300 on an average on bus journey. Isn't it natural that strings are being pulled to ensure the delay in resumption of train service?

Because of these lobbies, the common man's dream to travel by train has not come true for over 11 years. He has only to curse his fate and writhe his fists in despair.

The public only vents its anger by expressing its arm-chair opinions in the media, expecting someone else to do the job, and does nothing beyond that.

The 'intelligent' people of the district are resigned to their fate and live for the day.

Who is to blame? We get the leaders we deserve, don't we?

Courtesy : http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=33790&n_tit=Mangalore%3A+Passenger+Train+to+Bangalore+Still+a+Mirage

Anusha 

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The construction of the Nellore port on the coromandel coast would facilitate the transfer of iron ore from Bellary to China via this port. Infact, Janardhana Reddy, one of the top miners of Bellary is a close business associate of Dr Y S Rajashekar Reddy's (AP CM) son.

In a few years, pressure on Shiradi Ghat which serves as the route for moving iron ore from Bellary via NMPT - Mangalore Port - should be relieved.

WE need to raise our voice against the attrocities. 

By the way, I want to know how many of the people have really travelled on this train and experienced the journey.

Anusha 

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I think after the publishing of the comments on this portal the railways have started booking the tickets.  May be they are afraid that the agitation may be violent and they want to postpone it till next union elections.  However can anyone say that what will be our next move ?

Mr Moily announced two new trains while the elections are on, and EC is silent? How come? I would expect some thing EC in a day or two.

However,  this should remind us that train cancelation thing is "unconfirmed", and more of a rumor. I have emailed SWR PR officer twice, have called PRO's number (in Hubli) at least 5 times. No reply to email, and phone just rings, no pick up. Perhaps SWR PR department follows late Narasimha Rao's style - no word is best word, or rather, no PR is best PR.

Harsha was right in saying that the politicians want more and more facility once they get elected.  I with my seven year old child was stranded on the Shiradi Ghat for seven hours without  food and no amneties.  Did ever any politicians had the pinch of mangalore bangalore bus journey ?

The articles were published in the dailies on front page.  But no one had given attention.  And even the decision to repair the ghat section was ordered only after the trains started.  This too because the bus lobby was afraid that the people may completely forget the bus journey to Bangalore and mangalore like they had forgotten the train journey between these two stations.

All the politicians try to grab all the possible opportunities may it be the death or  tragedy of a common indian citize.  We are all goats following the shephard.  

Anusha 

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No point in running Shatabdhi from Bangalore-Mangalore. It will not serve common man and a regular Mangalore-Bangalore passengers. Compartments will also be less. Also Shatabdhis are all fast trains with 1 day to and fro journey. With the current route and track conditions, it is not a wise decision to have shatabdi.

Instead of that, they should run intercity express like the Hubli-Bangalore intercity which will serve all class of people. 

You are right SB. I don't think so. If there would have been bus lobby, existing highway would have been improved to make their buses run smoothly and quickly.

This highway needs to be improved and converted into 4 lane road as well as some sharp curves needs to be eliminated.  This will end the cry of the people of these places.

SWR is having its own problems and this has been related to bus lobby. Even now buses to Mangalore are running via Mysore and Madikeri, but still demand is more for train.

Hi all

here is a link wherein we all can give complaints online. Please lodge your complaint against the delay of the trains.

http://pgportal.gov.in/ 

and select the ministy railway and lodge your complaint giving 6517 (bangalore) and 6518(mangalore) and see that their complaint box is filled up with our complaints.

Anusha 

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Has anyone seen mr moily or his people after "granting" new railway lines to the people of Karnataka.  Does he know what sort of engines used for Shatabdi express. If the shatabdi engines are connected to the existing bogies of 6517 and 6518 the engine when takes to the max speed, rest of the bogies would remain at maddur where as the engine would have already reached mandya. Bhesh Moily hats off.  I hope you promised only the Shatabdi engine.  Like buying a helmet this year and bike after five years to compensate the deficit.

http://www.hindu.com/2008...

These politicians are slow moving pythons. [...deleted...] We the people who write blogs are really mild people. Even for heart attach we presume it to be chest pain. So lets decide what could be done at the earliest to see that the train moves regularly on this route.

Anusha

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Train is still ON but not sure for how long. They are trying hard to keep people away from train. I travelled to mangalore on friday and returned today morning i mean after noon

- Bogies attached to the train were really old. New ones seem to have disappered. If you have a upper berth it is difficult to go up.

-Toilets were not cleaned. I could not sleep because of the stink. Horrible. Over that the train got delayed more than 3 hrs by so had bear that smell more.

- So many cockroaches were flying around. they all looked well fed

- Laste arrival [which is common now a days] was targeted for office goers so that dont try to travel by train anymore After all buses would take you on time

Would like to hear other funny experience

Hello, I traveled today by train # 6518 from Mangalore (1st Jun 7:45PM) to Bangalore city. The tain reached Bangalore city at 11 AM on 2nd Jun. Hence total journey is a whopping 15 hrs 15 mins duration. Hence the name of the train is changed to 1515.

The train stopped 1 km before Subrahmanya road station as the driver was feeling dozzy The train stopped at Subrahmanya road station nearly an hour as the Station Master (SM) was feeling sleepy & could not wave green flag off. The train reached Ramanagaram station at 8.30 AM and stopeed for half an hour !!!  Then came Chamundi exp from Mysore towards Bangalore. The SM let the Chamundi exp go even though our train came first. We became furious and went & blasted SM and registered a complaint with the signature of nearly 100 passengers. Finally the train started at 10 AM from Ramanagaram and reached Bangalore city at 11 AM without any stop... even at Binny Mills !!!

 This is an unforgettable journey for me in train # 1515.

It is not just for Mangalore train which railways delay. Even Bangalore Mysore trains too are all delayed. I have been telling a lot and posting it on Mysore praja site.

Bangalore-Mysore journey is 3 hours in normal buses and in Volvos and cars it is 2 hrs. In train, it takes mammoth 3hrs 30 minutes+ and even more sometimes in an express and non-stop takes nearly 3 hours. Non-stop train is capable of 2 hrs 15 mins travel, Express 2hrs 45 mins and Passenger trains itself at 3hrs 15 mins. But, it is not run that way.  Weaker section of the society do not have alternative and are still patronizing the services.

Earlier, when Karnataka was under SR, this was the timings followed and timings was almost on dot. I used to travel every week and the timings were maintained, and it was always earlier than mentioned in the railway timings. I can't say bus lobby for this since KSRTC is the operator between Bangalore-Mysore and they are not so keen on lobbying. This delay is mainly due to increased number of compartments from 14 to 19-20, which is ofcourse needed to ferry more passengers, but will slow down the train. Earlier, during SR days, there was a restriction on the number of compartments for any section which enabled faster travel. Solution is to have 2 faster trains one after the other with ideal number of compartments rather than having 1 slow moving train. I remember travelling between Bangalore to Mysore in 1 hr 45 minutes during the initial run of the railways that too from station to station. Now Volvos can make the travel 2 hrs from Nayandahalli to Mysore. Compare the ticket price of Volvo of 200 rupees with 45 rupees of train and covering the distance in the same time. Railways is least bothered to run trains in that manner.

Ease in which people people can travel by Bus to Mysore is very much high. No need to stand in long queues of railway station, sit, in the bus, conductor will issue the ticket. No need to be in a hurry to get the train, anytime go to bus stand, bus is available.  This feature of buses itself is the lobbying factor.

 Railways is least bothered since it is getting its money since people are there to use it irrespective of the delays. This is what I give, if you want to take it, take it or leave it - Attitude of railways.

Mangalore-Bangalore travellers can now breath easy since Shiradi Ghat is open for traffic - A delightful news for the bus operators Sugama,Durgamba,Vishal, Ideal and MRL who had lost their business due to long travel via Mysore-Madikeri and people favouring train.

There are 2 curves which are still not done as mentioned in todays TOI. Again those gas trucks ready to spoil the newly done road!!

Hi All,

Its really a good news. Now already Mangalore Central is going away from the maps of Railways and once this route takes place and which surely will take place before the scheduled time as it has all keralites joining hands then you hardly find Mangalore Central in the railway map.  Now already 48 trains are moving from mangalore junction avoiding Mangalore central.  Once this route starts functioning we may have to forgo the Mangalore central and even there is no wonder the Mangalore Bangalore train will ply directly to Kerala via Puttur (prosposed route). Then we may have to catch a train back to mangalore from kanhangad and get down at Mangalore Junction not Central. 

Anusha 

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When we all talk about delay and punctuality of 6517 and 6518 train, there is one more watchable thing on this train.  When the train moves from Bng to Mng it will be escroted by around 26 police personnel with a minimum of 2 each in a compartment.  And these officials haras the food vendors in such a way the food vendors dont board the train at all.  Even if they come these police people will take two to three items from them for example dosa, pulav etc.  Once I happened to enquire one of the vendor and what he told is my boss has agreed to give two items to the police.  these police officicals will be given the bata for their expenses then why are they reluctant in making the payment ?

It is really ridiculous that we are screwed by our own people. 

Anusha 

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I booked ticket for aug 15th holiday At the ticket counter, the official said - The bangalore mangalore is always FULL and never has gone with empty seats. Atleaset someone accepts fact.

We know a few folks had filed RTI queries on this subject. Please keep doing it - either call SWR PR officer (Hubli), or their Public Grievance department, or file RTI queries asking for stats on arrival/departure/recorded robberies/load factor on this train.

I think we are ready to start a decicated RTI group on Praja. Basically, a team of experts who will direct you how to do it and how to follow up, though members will have to do the work of sending the letter/email themselves. Stay tuned.

{Admin}

Kiran8,

As per SW Railways - The BG Line from Bangalore to Hassan is still under construction.

http://www.southwesternrailway.in/

Atleast we have a performing MP in the Railway Committee from Karnataka. He did contribute to making the Mysore-Nanjangudu rail link a reality:

http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/10/stories/2008061057630300.htm 

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There is a notion that you can not get the ticket to mangalore train 6517 and 6518 unless you book three months in advance.  Can anyone tell how to advertise to the common public that the tickets are available at least one week in advance and sometimes even on the very same day. 

 Plesae dont think I want to advertise for the railway department.  But make this train available to all the people who want to travel on it.

Anusha 

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Its really shameful that we indians are mercyless to our fellow men.  And the maximum contribution goes to the Indian policemen.  On friday night there was not a single tea vendor or food vendor on the 6517 train.  After confirming it with TT we passengers came to know the reason for the same.  Each police escort men took three to four parcels of food from these people with three to four cups of tea/coffee from each of the vendor and these vendors could not bear the pinch.  So it was the poor people of train were sufferers as these vendors had boycotted the sales on these trains.  Shame on Indian police.

Anusha 

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Hi All

An interesting fact in train 6517 and 6518 is that for all the days the train 6518 is running with waiting list of at least 100 passenngesrs that is from mangalore to bangalore the train capacity is over and above the full capacity by 72 RAC + 100 WL in total 172 passengers above the housefull quota.  These figures are arrived after the chart is prepared.  Which means people prefer train which reaches bangalore early in the morning.  In return 6517 is below the houseful quota on an average of 100 Available seats.  That is because the delay in reaching Mangalore has made the people to reject the train.  Any analysis ?

These figures are from the seat availability list given from railway departement, 

http://www.indianrail.gov.in/acc_avl.html

train no 6517/6518

source sbc/maq

destination maq/sbc

Anybody can get availability on any day from this site. 

Anusha 

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As the peoples comments increase in Praja the railway officials are on 6517 and 6518 to check the reason for the delay.  and for the past three days the train is runnin only 20 minutes late.

And one more thing, new compartments with 9 seaters have been introduced which has one more middle berth for the side seats.  It makes the people to struggle to get their body into the berth.  Really unscintific method of innovation. 

Anusha 

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HI All,

This is not at all surprising.  Because due to the agitation of the people thru praja the mangalore bangalore train is plying till date.  And after June lots of developments and improvements could be seen on this line.

To be honest Mangalore subaramanya train which is plying at the moment runs in odd time and very slowly which tests the patience of the passengers.  Even we commented on seeing the total passengers plying over the trains as these are the people who should be given Bharata Ratna award.  Inspite of all the harassments and problems these people ply on this train which shows their affection towards the Mangalore Subramanya train.

Anusha 

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It is clear that it is man made landlside to benefit the bus lobby on occasion of independence day . poor rain is taking the blame.

Also where is out MP Mr K Sadananda Gowda WHO PROMISED DAY TRAIN. Today is 18th Aug and 2 months deadline is over. The train is not important for politicians. they are busy buying opposition MLAS.,

Another pair of train which was planned to run via hassan is still in cold storage and this is nothing but mockery of general public. This is nothing against extension of the train but the unjustice being meeted out to Mangalore.