KRV discussions and comment guidelines

31 January 2009 - 11:46am — sanneerappa

Some of the comments in this thread have flouted Praja comment guidelines by making unsubstantiated allegations about Karnataka Rakshana Vedike (KRV) & its leadership. These comments are based on hearsay and personal opinions. We request the responsible admin / moderators of this forum to act on this.

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We welcome members of Praja to meet us to discuss about Urban Governance & Infrastructure Development in Bengaluru and other cities in Karnataka. This meeting would enable better understanding of KRV as an organization, its goals and objectives.

Please visit www.karnatakarakshanavedike.org and www.karave.blogspot.com to know about KRV and its programs. Please mail at kannada at karnatakarakshanavedike dot org for further communication with Karnataka Rakshana Vedike (KRV).

Sanneerappa,
Spokesperson,
Karnataka Rakshana Vedike
www.karnatakarakshanavedike.org

Comments

I agree

silkboard - 31 Jan 2009 - 3:09pm

Writing on behalf of the moderators to respond to KRV's reminder about our comment guidelines.

Some recent discussions have indeed been violating comment guidelines. Emotion driven flame wars like these are only going to kill this forum which was created to be reasonable, constructive, collaborative and different. On requests from several members, we have closed both those threads that have gone beyond reasonable arguments and discussions.

Authors are encouraged to go back edit their own comments, if you feel you broke the decorum or crossed that thin line and used foul language or unsubstantiated personal attacks, please do some self moderation. On behalf of moderators and admins, let me remind all that nobody works fulltime here to moderate or administer Praja website. Please respect everyone's time and stick to the moderation guidelines so that we can keep the site open to all.

On a personal note, I will certainly like to meet KRV to know more about them and their work in the area of Urban Infrastructure and Governance. Any help towards arranging this meeting is most welcome.

Flag etc.

rs - 31 Jan 2009 - 3:31pm

I guess it was my comments that started the flame war on the flag and KRV etc. While I regret that the issue has escalated to an unpleasant level with some unfortunately and inappropriate comments being made I still think it is an important issue to be discussed as far as the long term future of Bangalore is concerned. Though personal attacks and unsubstantiated allegations are certainly not the way to go.

Nevertheless I was happy to note that the website which started this debate - bengaluruvedike.com - has removed the flag from their site. Regardless of whether KRV is good or bad I think the point remains that their flag on the bengaluruvedike website was inappropriate.

RS

Agree with that too

silkboard - 31 Jan 2009 - 7:14pm

Avoiding them is not the best way to deal with issues that do exist. Growth and development while preserving local cultural identity in an acceptable way is an issue close to many people's heart. But, unfortunately, its hard to debate on this topic without getting drawn into non-reasonable, unnecessary or inflammatory arguments. So how do we get constructive on these emotive subjects? How about::

Some serious stats to prove or dis-prove any trends over last 10 years - has kannada really been losing out? Has the percentage of non-kannada speakers gone down in BLR, MYS, or the state?
Some study of "local promotion" (like job or education reservation for "locals") legislations in other states, or in international regions - how have those laws fared, helped, or have been a competitive disadvantage? And then a check on if our state has anything similar.
Legally acceptable definitions on "who is local" and examples to quote from elsewhere? Implications of such definitions elsewhere?
What steps has GoK been taking to "promote" or preserve regional culture? A meeting with relevant state ministry should help - whats their budget in the first place? For example: how many universities have taken the recent kannada-promoting grants that were announced and how have those grants been used?
Think more stuff on these fact-driven or analytical lines ...

I hope I provided an idea of my thoughts on what would be constructive and analytical ways of talking on these subjects. In outcome focused way of thinking, discussing KRV in itself is not as important as discussing the issues (at face value) that these outfits stand up for. Hope this website will attract some more folks who'd be willing to educate us on the subject.

PS: don't mean to launch yet another discussion here, please create new forum post if you want to.

sure we can have fact based discussions

bialterminal - 1 Feb 2009 - 8:28am

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Pro-Kannada bodies flay Sene

murali772 - 1 Feb 2009 - 6:37pm

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Muralidhar Rao

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