I am a new member of Praja and am excited to see the possibilities.
The main project that comes to mind is BMIC / NICE. There seems no credible and accountable source of information on progress for this anticipated project except for Hon. Deve Gowda complaining about land allocation. Core issues:
- NICE Site http://www.nicelimited.com has not been updated since Year 2000
- No Status available except latest news on Star of Mysore claiming a completion of Dec 2009 - I am assuming this is the road from Mysore to Bangalore
- No Work currently in progress on the Bannergatta Road Crossing from Electronic City to Kanakpura Road. The core update needed is "When are they finishing Hosur Road to Tumkur Road and relieving pressure on Bangalore City? How is the current government holding them accountable?
Any ideas on how we can setup a Praja meeting with Mr. Ashok Kheny? Secondly, how can we setup a second recurring meeting with Government officials on their take? Any advice is greatly appreciated. I plan to stop in the NICE office and ask for a meeting. What is the process for setting up a meeting on behalf of Praja?
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BMIC Meet
Have you seen this?
Searching for info on NICE, rememebred looking at this quite some time ago. Don't know the legitimacy of any of the claims in these websites. Certainly difficult to get info when there is no transparency.
http://www.esgindia.org/campaigns/bmic/current/current.html
Here is another link I had seen in the past.
http://www.indiatogether.org/stories/bmicvhb.htm
Most of the info I have seen so far seem to indicate negative publicity. On the other hand, I have travelled on NICE peripheral road, and it is certainly better than any other I have drivern on recently in and around Bangalore. But, not sure of the kind of politics involved.
Ravi
yeah.
Sitting Pretty on a good investment
---Ananthram PS, Senior Citizen
last read..
DG was warning BSY not to take any hasty decissions till the 17th Aug when there is yet another hearing in the SC about NICE..
On ground I was told that BWSSB had shifted the pipeline which was causing impediments near the junction where the NICE road joins the ORR(Around PES eng college). NICE should be set now to complete this stretch..
BWSSB Vs NICE
More contests to follow
And another non-verdict today. I've a very bad feeling about this whole thing.
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug52008/scroll2008080582889.asp?section=updatenews
blrsri: We did loose water for two or three days because of pipeline work. Hope that is a new starting point to go somewhere. If there is no start, NICE roads end up connecting nothing, after spending tons of money - like the link road near PES that has no entry and no exit (dead ends at Uttarahalli main road).
Thanks,
Ravi
Root cause for absence of transparency is the real estate prices
Question that raises is why didn't Kheny started the work as soon as the agreement was signed with the then CM of Karnataka Mr.DG. Why did they start so late? Was there not any timelines set?
Second thing is Mr.DG nods his head to DLF group for Bidadi Township and why not to Mr.Kheny? If Mr.DG is so concious of Farmers why didn't he protest at that time?
This is where internal 'understanding' between builders and politicians comes into picture. One of our family friend had a huge old house in V.V.Puram. They wanted to convert into apartments. For that, the then MLA of that area demanded 2 flats to him to give the permission. When they said they cannot, he with held all the permissions quoting 'n' number of reasons.Unfortunately that MLA lost his seat this election, I don't know what's the status now. This is an example to illustrate the greed of politicians in real estate.
This whole real estate business in Bangalore is lacking in transparency. If you speak to any real estate agent or whoever who is in this real estate business, there is no transparency.They will do 'n' number of things to confuse you.
Lots of people became rich overnight because of the realestate related business in Bangalore. Mysore, which was a pensioner's paradise 5-6 years back has also become unreachable now due to the pseudo hike in realestate prices with the reasons such as 'INFY' came to Mysore, NICE is going to start, double track between Bangalore-Mysore is taking place, Airport is coming up, Bangalore-Mysore road is 4 lane - blah blah blah. There were very few real estate agents in Mysore without any business, now there are 5-6 real estate agents every road all of them roaming around lavishly. Samething here, people wants to use the opportunity.
Technically speaking, BMIC is a good road with all the safety measures compared to existing Bangalore-Mysore. But, it again encourages 'Car' based travel of America which 'America' itself is struggling due to increased gas prices. Also, we have discussed and seeing daily the road rages of Bangaloreans specifically and whole of India generally. It clearly states that we are not fit for this 'expressways' and we unnecessarily loose precious lives. We have expressway without Monitoring and Patroling. Demand is on excellent high speed rail based transit for India like Eurostar or ICE atleast at 150kmph.
Something is brewing
From DH this morning:
http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Aug62008/state2008080683042.asp
BMIC related news has started to trickle out again. Something brewing?
Ravi
Permission for apartments
what about gottigere?
'Empowered' committe (yawn!) has approved land acqisition at major junctions for the NICE PRR. But what about the Gottigere lake off Bannerghatta Road ?
How many cases are still pending on this? why didnt the Empowered group not decide on this?
Vasanth, you could not have said it any better
I completely agree with your railway link suggestion. But given that this road is finally getting into shape, forget all hopes for a high speed railway link - the invisible hands will never let that happen.
blast from the past
BMIC promises galore
sent a mail to NICE email id ...
... requesting for a meeting. Mail didn't bounce, so the email id still works (I wasn't hopeful of that, given the state of NICE website :) ). Lets see if we manage a reply, or the meeting itself.
Heard from Mr Kheny's office
BRAVO!!!
Easy tarle, wasn't via email
Reached his office through someone here who had a contact, that email on NICE website didn't fetch any response. But anyway, lets wait to hear on the date.
But I am thinking we wont do a pure journalistic job of this meeting. Perhaps only ask about the framework agreeements, why they aren't in open domain. May be just one question asking for his take on KIADB's 7000 bonus acres controversy. Rest of the time, lets ask him about how he got the expressway designed, does he plan to bid for more in the state (he had spoken of Kolar-Mangalore expresway in an interview to a Dakshin Kannada paper or website) and similar things.
Good news....
Email or phone, it is nice to be able to meet with NICE!.
Well done SB.
I think we should also hear NICE's interpretation of the current project status, and get an updated schedule of sorts...
Thanks,
Ravi
Watch outs
On TV sets - reminded me of "if they can't have bread let the eat cake" :)
IMHO, we clearly don't want to get into the politics of NICE. That is treading a minefield. Keeping things fact based is probably the way to go. I would like to understand
a. When the BMIC PRR is expected to get completed including Gottigere
b. Do they plan (by working with the govt of course) to extend the PRR till NH-7 given that they can get a significant amount of airport traffic.
c. How do they plan to control speeding on their expressways? As Vasanth put it - we are as a society not really ready for fast cars and high speeds.
d. There was some talk of mono-rail, etc. That eats into their car revenues. What is in it for them to implement train and mono-rail?
e. Their side of the story on land acquisition - delicate one. But I would like to understand. Land acquisition needs to follow a principle (IMHO) which I learnt in my previous company - as much as necessary as little as possible.
Srivathsa
Drive safe. It is not just the car maker which can recall its product.
yes sri - no investigative media like thing
Lets ask for facts and whatever documents he can share. I am tempted to offer a redo of NICE website (its so old looking), but I will control myself :)
Whenever you meet people, you get feelings about them - face, body language, emotions, mannerisms tell you things that no newspaper or NGO reports can. Personally, it'll be good to just meet up and hear him expain his side in this whole messy project.
About stats, I'd like to hear his revenue projections, and basis for those numbers. How much traffic does he expect? When will he start tolling the peripheral road? Any plans to incentivize public transport on his roads or elsewhere as a CSR gesture? Who will police NICE roads - a security agency from NICE, or state police? What made him bet so big on Bangalore-Mysore region 12 years ago?
update - its still on, may be next week