Guys, I am starting a new thread for discussion on "Roads to BIAL". Objective is to, let's share the ideas of alternate roads/gullys that can be used for commute to the New Airport in Devanahalli. Also let's draw a comparison between commute times to HAL as well as BIAL. Let's pick various points in B'lore for the study. Here is my first list:
1. Vijaynagar / Mysore Road (From BEML)
2. Banashankari
3. J. P. Nagar
4. IIM, Banergahtta Road
5. Electronic City / Silk Board
6. Koramangala / Audgudi
7. ITPL / Whitefield / K R Puram
8. Peenya / IAF Jalahalli / YeswanthPur
9. Basaweshavara Nagar / Rajajinagar
10. Malleswaram
11. Vidhana Soudha
12. KempeGowda Road (Majestic)
13. M. G. Road
14. Ulsoor
Hope that would cover the periphery of Bangalore City. Feel free to suggest other points that could also be of importance.
Note: Presently I do not live in Bangalore, therefore I am not in a position to volunteer for any time measuring task.
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kbsyed:
Below are some of the travel times that were recorded for going upto BIAL from different points in Bangalore. These are what was reported in Online version of "The Hindu" today (March 12, 2008).
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From ITPL to Devanahalli
Special CorrespondentThe route was not half as bad, but one thinks twice if it is a short-haul flight
Bangalore: It is 9 a.m. at the International Tech Park Limited on a Tuesday morning. The pink tabebuia trees that line the avenues of this sprawling tech campus are in glorious bloom, and relieve the tedium of the morning peak hour traffic. My aim is to get to the Devanahalli International Airport to catch a 12 p.m. flight to Chennai. I must get in by 11 a.m., and have given myself two hours.
Past the glass and chrome façade of the Tata Consultancy Services offices, past the Sai Baba Hospital and we are on the Whitefield Road. It is a fairly clear stretch and we keep an average speed of 40 to 50 km. We make it to the Krishnarajapuram flyover in 20 minutes, a distance of eight kilometres. Here we enter our first traffic hold up — a seven minute standstill at the flyover amid a jam of lorries, buses, cars and autos. Emerging from this, we have a fairly straight run down the Outer Ring Road heading to the Hebbal flyover. At the Hennur junction, 15 km and 40 minutes from our starting point, we take a right.
The Hennur Road is a less frequented but also less busy road than the Outer Ring Road, I have been told, and want to check it out. The road is narrow and of uneven quality — very bad patches where the road is still under construction to silky, just-tarred stretches.
Past the Bible College and Preethi Sadan on the left, and a couple of kilometres on we turn left at the village of Kannur. Through the village of Kogilu, and a few kilometres further we hit the main Hebbal Road, some distance past Yelahanka. We are now 30 km from our starting point.
Six-lane highwayIt is a dream run down the six-lane highway to Devanahalli. I arrive at the beginning of the trumpet flyover that will lead to the airport terminal at exactly 10.25 a.m.. My commute of 42 km has taken 1 hr and 25 minutes, we have passed five traffic signals, and here I am, half an hour early for my flight. Not as bad as I thought, but is this really worth the effort for a 40-minute flight to Chennai? The next time I’ll definitely take the train.
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Jayanagar to international airport in 64 minutes
S. RajendranBangalore: The road connectivity from Jayanagar to the international airport at Devanahalli is not really bad compared with the road link to the airport from the other parts of Bangalore.
The distance of 34.2 kilometres can be covered in just about an hour — 64 minutes to be precise — during peak hours.
UnderpassesAnd with the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike working on widening and installing underpasses along the international airport corridor, the journey from Jayanagar to the airport should be even faster in the days to come.
Interestingly for this correspondent who personally drove from the Jayanagar fifth block (which is in the core part of Jayanagar) to the airport and back, the return journey was more tedious thanks to the number of arterial roads where one-way movement has been introduced in recent years. The return journey from the airport to Jayanagar is 36.4 km and took nearly 17 minutes more than the journey to the airport.
Best routeWith this journey having been undertaken to serve as a guide to air travellers from Jayanagar, the best route is as follows: South end circle, Minerva circle, Town Hall, Cauvery Bhavan, Maharani’s College, KPSC, Basaveshwara circle, High Grounds, BDA junction, Cauvery junction, Mekhri circle underpass, Hebbal flyover, Yelahanka byepass, international airport.
The road intersections vulnerable to motor traffic jams could be ones at Minerva Circle and Town Hall given the assurance extended by the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike that the entire stretch from High Grounds to Hebbal flyover would be traffic signal-free very shortly.
Traffic jamsIn the normal course, traffic jams build up at Minerva circle whenever a major political programme takes place at Town Hall.
In such an event, air travellers from Jayanagar could take the next parallel road via Kengal Hanumanthaiah Road and Kasturba Road to reach the high Grounds junction.
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A very long but NICE route (From INFOSYS, Electronics City)
M. RaghuramBANGALORE: You have two hours to get to the Bangalore International Airport at Devanahalli. Consider taking the longer route. This road takes you through some of the best roads, not much of traffic, not definitely the bumper to bumper kind, and only a few signals and road humps. This road is best taken from the Electronics City which approximately takes 2.15 hours and 67 kilometres.
NICE roadThis route begins at the ramp leading to the Nandi Infrastructure Corridor Enterprise (NICE) just by the side of the ongoing elevated highway project of the National Highways Authority of India. I started at 9.30 in front of Infosys and sped on the beautifully laid NICE road for less than 5 minutes before being forced to take a diversion at Gottigere owing to a land dispute.
The 2.5 km diversion takes 20 minutes to negotiate in first gear.
TrucksBut then it is back near the Someshwaraswamy temple where I join the NICE road.
The next 17 km is heavenly and I see oncoming vehicles only when I join the Mysore Road at the end of the NICE road. The first signal I encounter now is at Kottigepalya Tumkur Road interchange.
At Tumkur Road, travellers might come across some heavy truck traffic till where the Outer Ring Road branches off into Yeshwanthpur bypass road which joins the Hebbal flyover.
Beware, there is a railway crossing and if you are caught, you may lose a good 10 minutes.
On this stretch also there is heavy truck traffic but at least it moves. But once you branch off in to NH7 underneath the Hebbal flyover, the drive to the airport (up to the ramp of the trumpet interchange) is a matter of 19 km, is done in 20 minutes.
From Electronics City, it was slow going in parts
KrishnaprasadBangalore: Say you are among those travelling from Electronics City to the new international airport at Devanahalli to catch a flight at 12 noon.
Even if you take the route with minimal traffic hold-ups, you will have to leave Electronics City at least two hours before check-in time of 11 a.m.
Though I wanted to start at 9 a.m. from Electronics City, I had starting trouble, and got delayed by half an hour.
The cab driver advised me and my colleague to avoid central areas such like Richmond Road, Mahatma Gandhi Road, St. Mark’s Road. Raj Bhavan Road to save time and stress what with work on the Metro Rail under way here.
As trucks from Hosur towards Outer Ring Road are prohibited from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m., it took only 29 minutes for us to reach Silk Board junction, which is about 10 km from the Electronics City entrance. Even so, buses careening crazily, vehicles taking U-turns and work on the elevated expressway marred our progress. Vehicle movement was dead slow between Silk Board and Johnson Market junctions as it was peak hour. It took 22 minutes to cover this five-km stretch.
We entered Campbell Road at Johnson’s Market junction and reached Trinity junction at 10.27 a.m., covering two km in six minutes.
From this point, our progress became brisker as we were moving away from the city during peak hour. From Trinity junction we travelled through Annaswamy Mudaliar Road (along Ulsoor lake) then on St. John’s Road to reach the Outer Ring Road at Hennur Road at 10.47 a.m. via Frazer Town and Lingarajapuram. This stretch of 8 km took 20 minutes.
From Hennur Cross, we travelled 6 km on ORR to reach Hebbal flyover at 11 a.m. and then covered final 21 km in just 20 minutes on NH 7 to reach trumpet intersection at 11.20 a.m. Perhaps we would have reached by 10.50 a.m. if started at 9 a.m. as planned. It was not as bad as we had thought.
A word of cautionOur driver said it would take an additional 15 to 20 minutes to reach Silk Board junction from Electronics City entrance during evening peak hours — 5.30 p.m. to 7.30 p.m. – as those employed in Electronics City would be returning towards city centre and others parts in company buses, cabs, and private vehicles.
Taking the longer route from helped (From Banashankari)
Sharath S. Srivatsa — Photo: K. GopinathanBrisk pace: Work on the trumpet intersection near Devanahalli in progress.
BANGALORE: Expecting chaotic traffic but curious to explore an alternative route to the Devanahalli, our vehicle speeded on the Banashankari Ring Road near NCERT at 9 a.m. A little longer than the usual route taken through the clogged J.C. Road, the journey through the West of Chord Road, I felt, could be a viable route to passengers from the Bangalore south region.
The route plan was to reach the Mysore Road junction and move towards the BHEL junction before entering the West of Chord Road to reach Yeshwanthpur from where we would move towards the C.V. Raman Avenue, Mekhri Circle and Hebbal Flyover to reach the airport by 11 a.m.
Joining the peak hour traffic on the Ring Road, the vehicle moved past the Mysore Road junction and BHEL junction smoothly before hitting a little crowded West of Chord Road. “Today’s traffic is unusually less at this hour,” remarked driver Raja while crossing the Vijayanagar traffic signal.
Within a few minutes, we were taking a deviation from the Chord Road into the Magadi Road since the road remains closed to facilitate a grade separator work. Once back on the Chord Road, we moved past the junctions at Shivanahalli and Mahalaxmi Layout on a relatively open road till Yeshwanthpura Circle. The movement slowed down a bit from Yeshwanthpur as we passed through the C.V. Raman Avenue to enter the National Highway 7 at Mekhri Circle, and remained the same till Hebbal Flyover.
It was 10.25 a.m. when the vehicle reached the Trumpet Interchange on NH 7, an hour and 25 minutes after we left Banashankari and travelled a distance of 41 km.
Possible hold up areasWhile we did not face traffic snarls en route on the busy Tuesday morning, enquiries with fellow drivers taking the route revealed potential traffic hold ups in a few major junctions that we passed by. Mysore Road junction and BHEL Junction on Mysore Road could emerge as traffic bottlenecks sometimes and the traffic is slow, especially in the evening.
The grade separator work on West of Chord Road at Rajajinagar and the flyover work at Yeshwanthpur Circle may cause significant problems for the movement of traffic during peak hours which the passengers have to be cautious about.
Grade separator work on West of Chord Road may cause traffic snarls
comments on the Hindu report
Some quick comments on the Hindu report
a. First off, they still do journalism unlike the sensationalism of ToI. I need to change my newspaper and quickly :)
b. they have got one data point and without the incremental traffic to the aiport itself. Could be not an insignificant factor. Sorry to rain on the parade. I would like to see statistical data. There are days when I do a Richmond Town to JP Nagar 7th phase trip in 30 mins but on an average it takes 40 mins with a worst case of 1 hr. I think 64 mins from Jayanagar 5th block is one of the better timings - in fact might be even better than the trip to HAL airport!. I would still say that even 90 mins would not be bad from Jayanagar. Predicability is as important as the actual time - it leads to less stress.
c. I think they have tried to be a bit more representative of the commute times by including places like Jayanagar and ITPL. Sarjapur Road, Indiranagar, Koramangala, Vijayanagar, need to be tracked as well. Electronics City is important but was being over represented in the noise. We have people in other parts of Bangalore as well.
d. In the case of Electronics city, if a person had a morning flight or afternoon flight, I doubt he/she would even bother to go to the office for 2 or 3 hrs. Work from home or airport. I am sure they will have Wi-fi at the airport. People who choose to live in the Electronics City area for shorter commutes to work - well this is the flip side of it.
e. NICE Road should get a boost if the total distance is 61 km to the trumpet interchange from EC. I am surprised that it is only 61 km, given the whole BMIC PRR itself is 41km. But who am I to argue with an odometer?
f. From ITPL the other option is the Budigere to Devanahalli Road. Does anyone have a timing for this? I would not use it at night though.
g. I don't think people (including me) have a very good idea of what it means to manage two commercial airports within 40 or 50 km of each other in terms of airspace. If a protocol has not been put in place for both airports till now, I would be very concerned if HAL was allowed to continue. (Flight from Hyderabad to HAL crossing Devanahalli while flight from Devanahalli to Cochin taking off!) Remember Charki Dadri? Indian airspace is very restricted as far as civil aviation is concerned. It's certainly a bit more complex than having multiple bus stands in the city.
Srivathsa
early for actuals
martimier: Hennur-ORR& Bagalur Road
maritimer drove from Hennur-ORR junction on SH104 through Bagalur and hit the BIAL compound wall in about 25 mins (22 kms roughly). On the return journey, maritimer continued along the BIAL compound wall toward Budigere to reach NH4 junction in about 15 mins (23 kms).
"The 2-lane newly upgraded roads are the green ones. NH7 and NH207 in red. ORR in blue."
BIAL tour
6 major roads to BIAL
Ajay
It takes me approximately 50
It takes me approximately 50 minutes from my home near Malleswaram circle to BIAL and about 40 minutes from my home to HAL.
If the road works from CBI in Gangenahalli till Hebbal Flyover are completed, then it would probably take about 30 minutes for me during peak hours.
20 min to enter HAL airport
-- PhotoYogi
Route Details Needed !
BCP's suggestions
So close yet so far
50 minutes to reach BIA from Vidhan Soudha
By B K Chandrashekar, MLC
I congratulate TOI yet again on the strong concern shown re garding the quality of life including infrastructure (especially roads). The Unlock Bangalore consultation seemed, as reported, to be of high quality and utility. I have myself tried to champion better infrastructure facilities, better overall quality of life. However, I wish to correct an impression repeated by several people regarding the time taken to reach BIAL from Vidhana Soudha. From the centre of Bangalore, or from areas around Vidhana Soudha, it does not take 2-3 hours as declared by several people at the Unlock Bangalore discussion.
Just a few days ago, I invited BBMP commissioner Subramanya and member secretary, infrastructure and in-charge of connectivity to BIAL V P Baligar to drive to BIAL from Vidhana Soudha and to time the journey. I inspected the grade separator work at BDA Junction and one or two work spots at traffic junctions and finally at the trumpet interchange near BIAL.
After taking time spent on inspection, it took 50 minutes for the Vidhana Soudha-BIAL journey. I had myself kept track of time required. It is important to record here that I had no police escort with me (I have never used it in Bangalore and rarely do so on my tours out of Bangalore).
With the completion by end-April of the 2-3 grade separators - underpass, the journey will be even quicker. The time that might be taken for those of us who travel from Banashankari or Jayanagar will obviously more than 50 minutes. But surely that would be the case for people from Malleswaram, Sadashivanagar or Indiranagar had the airport been located at Bidadi on Mysore Road, once considered as an alternative to Devanahalli.
need help in creating route maps
Dear tarlesubba and others,
Can some body help with diagrams/figures to map these alternate routes? Or can somebody point me to a elctronic copy of the Bangalore Maps with major roads?
BIA to Whitefield - Sunday evening
Here is one way of doing it
maps
At the present traffic!!! When BIAL Opens!!!!
Guys I accept that what ever you have told above is correct and it may take at maxium 90min even in the worst traffic pear hours. But one thing we need to keep in mind is that, once the airport opens the traffic going towards airport will be more than 10times what is now. So I still feel that the quick solutions would be from the SW Railways people providing trains in the existing line. What do you feel?
10 times?
See, now all the traffic
See, now all the traffic that is going towards HAL will be going towards Hebbal to reach BIAL. The survey or trials that people have done today is without taking this volume into consideration. Just think the time that it could take if all these traffic is in flow on these roads that lead to BIAL.
Today there is just one vechicle going towards BIAL to do the trial, tomorrow if it opens for every one vechicle there will be atleast 10 going torward BIAL.
There is no source of this, this is what I have posted. Please tell me if I am wrong.
road to BIAL
I have been reading lot of routes to BIAL. But ultimately all are practically going to end at Hebbal flyover. from there it is going to be one hell of a ride to BIAL. All the timings for the routes are being done with the airport not functional. The maximum air traffic in bangalore is between 1600hrs to 2400 hrs. This timing is already the peak road traffic, especially if you take the segment from cantonment rail station towards Mekhri underpass. Imagine the traffic going to BIAL passing through this section, there will be a grid lock. This traffic will be joined with the traffic from the so called underp[ass or magic boxes from High grounds to Mekhri underpass. You just can imagine the chaos. Even without the road traffic going to BIAL not being there now, there is utter chaos on the stretch from Mekhri to Hebbal flyover.
And please be aware this traffic has to move along with the trucks and lorries on the NH7. add to this the cargo movement from within city to the BIAL, plus movement of personnel working in the airport going to/from the airport.
All this will lead to very slow moving traffic, even with the so called magic boxes. Have the administration though of, what would happen if any truck or lorry broke down inside the magic box. Do they have alternative plan to divert traffic, or keep towing facility nearby to move any broken truck away from these magic boxes.
Yuvaraj, I was actually
Incomplete Kadugodi Flyover Stumbling Block !
Friends,
It is time we take initiative to put pressures on all those who matters for the completion of all construction works on the roads that leads to new airport. Here is one example of unfinished patch that I believe is hindering the smooth ride to BIA.
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Incomplete Kadugodi Flyover Stumbling Block On Route To DevanahalliSujit John & B Pradeep Nair | TNN
Bangalore:
V P Baligar is only partly right. Some of the alternative roads to the new international airport in Devanahalli have indeed been upgraded, as he says. What the state’s infrastructure development secretary does not say though is that on one of the most important of these roads, there’s a major block that would dissuade most people from using it. That route cuts through Whitefield and hits Devanahalli via Budigere. It’s a route that can enable those around Electronics City and those along Sarjapur Road and Whitefield to avoid the congested Outer Ring Road-Hebbal route to Devanahalli. But the trouble is a partially built flyover at Kadugodi on the Sai Baba Ashram Road in whitefield. The construction of the flyover, which goes over railway tracks, began nearly two years ago. But locals say that work came to a standstill some time ago. Some say the contractor has abandoned the project. But Baligar says that’s not the case, that there is a dispute over payment and some delay in supply of construction material, both of which were expected to be resolved before long. Baligar expects the flyover to be ready in another six months. But some contractors working on adjacent roads told TOI that it could take longer even if work were to
restart immediately.
The alternative to this flyover is a 5-km diversion from the Hope Farm Junction on Sai Baba Ashram Road via Channasandra which gets you to the other side of the half-done flyover. Not only is that distance forbidding, the condition of that road is terrible and there’s a level crossing on the route which could be closed, as it was when we took the road recently. For that one reason, we don’t expect very many people to take that route to Devanahalli. That route is otherwise almost picture perfect. Nicely
laid, smooth roads (though we can’t comment on how many monsoons it will survive). In a few short stretches, PWD’s upgradation work is still on, but that should be over soon. The road — that starts from Chandapura near Electronics City through Dommansandra on Sarjapur Road, and through Varthur, Whitefield and Budigere — is only a 7-metre wide, two-lane road. But for the moment, it looks adequate. There’s very little traffic, especially on the stretch from the Budigere Junction on Old Madras Road, all the way to Devanahalli, a 33-km stretch we did in 40 minutes. We didn’t have to stop anywhere along the way. No traffic lights. No pedestrians. Only lush fields all around.
But Mr Baligar, all your efforts will be wasted if the flyover isn’t quickly completed. The situation is similar to NICE’s peripheral road, a beautiful road that most commuters shun because of minor incomplete stretches. Small blocks are creating big issues for commuters, and the city. The government must act.
Six laning of Old Madras Road
Bellary road MLA
Bellary road comes under the constituency of Byatarayanpura. The MLA of this consituency is Shri Krishna Byregowda of the Congress. He was educated in Christ College (BBM) and in American University, Washington DC (M.A).
This is his website: http://www.krishnabyregow...
I plan to write to him to request him to expedite the work in progress of the Bellary Road.
I propose an undergound road, similar to the one built by IISc connecting the JN Tata Auditorium to the main campus, that goes under the Air Force Head Quaters and connecting D Rajagopal Road to Bellary Road. This would enable Vehicles using Bellary road to take a quick detour through the underground road into Sanjaynagar.
Alternatively, if the Air Force is willing, then we could have a cheaper road cutting through the Training Command. But then i doubt the Air Force would be willing to give up an inch of their land citing 'national security' concerns:
http://picasaweb.google.com/crm4803/ProposedProjects02/photo#5205337848976071810
having govt at the helm helps?!
Its to be seen if having a govt at the helm help..there will be lot of plane rides by various politicians into and out of Bangalore..remember its BJP's gateway to the south and not all airport rides will be exclusive!
And Yeshwant Sinha/ Sushma Swaraj will get stuck in the jams and they will tell Yeddy Sir to fix the bellary road and things will then happen on a war footing!
Underground Roads Not appropriate for Public Use
Malolan,
The disadvantages of an underground road far outweigh the advantages as listed below :
Advantages :
1) Quick movement of traffic.
2) Traffic conflicts are avoided.
3) Handling capacity of the road netwrok increases.
Disadvantages ;
1) Very high cost, even if cut & cover method is used, instead of tunneling with tunnel boring machines (TBMs).
2) Lighting, Ventilation & drainage within the tunnel is an expensive recurring cost.
3) Encourages vandalism & robbery at night when vehicles are few as there is no assistance /protection at hand.
4) Encourages people to opt for private vehicles as road movements become better.
5) Easy traget for terrorism.
These were the reasons why the Minsk square to Hebbal tunnel did not materialize. Such tunnels are welcome within an institution as security /costs are easily met & monitoring is generally not an issue for the limited no. of users, but this becomes a major issue when it is opted for public use - elevated roads are better in this respect.
Even the Metro has opted for elevated alignments for these reasons, except in congested areas where they do not have any choice, but to go underground.
Thanks for the input
Thank you Naveen for your clarifications!
I am just wondering if atleast an elevated road connecting Sanjaynagar to Mekhri Circle can be built. There is a major block on the junction of D Rajagopal Road and Bellary Road. Vehicles have to take a left on D Rajagopal Road if they have to go to Sanjaynagar.
Nevertheless - the Air Force Training Command land is a major hurdle blocking access to Sanjaynagar.
What Happened to BBMP spending money 46 Crore
BBMP developing alternative road to international airport
The commute to the Bengaluru International Airport is likely to be smoother once the Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) completes work on the three-lane double road from Hennur, and the BBMP's Standing Committee for Major Works met with BIAL officials in this regard recently.
Committee chairperson H. Ravindra said the 150-foot wide road from Hennur will run till the Mylanahalli junction to reach the BIAL compound on the eastern side. “Once the road is developed, the residents of the eastern parts of the city can reach the airport easily and won't have to take the Bellary Road. This will be an alternative road to the airport.”
Report soon
The meeting decided to constitute a joint committee which will submit a report on the road within 10 days. The BBMP requested BIAL to take over the construction of the road from the compound wall to the airport terminal though BIAL officials had some apprehensions as the second runway would come up by 2014.
“All these issues will be looked into. We will discuss the report with Mayor S.K. Nataraj and Minister in-charge R. Ashok and then decide,” Mr. Ravindra said.
Congestion impact
The alternative road from Hennur cuts through Bagalur, Kanoor, Chagalatha, Mylanahalli, cutting the distance to the airport by around 10 km. Now that the National Highway Authority of India has announced that it will collect a toll on Airport Road, commuters will prefer travelling to the airport on BBMP's road.
“This will help bring down traffic congestion on the Airport Road by half,” he claimed.
BBMP officials said that the road is being developed at Rs. 46 crore and 80 per cent of the work has been completed. They said that Rs. 31 crore had been spent and 56 acres (nearly 24 lakh sq ft) had been acquired through TDR. The committee members said that the work would be completed within two to three months.
Land had been acquired from a Dalit colony in Bandikodigehalli and its residents would be rehabilitated under the 22.75 per cent scheme.
Air show
The committee members later visited the road which would lead from Airport Road towards Doddaballapur that has been taken up by the Karnataka Rural Infrastructure Development Ltd. at a cost of Rs. 18.23 crore. The 20.9-km road is being developed as per directions of the State Chief Secretary, aimed at reducing congestion during Aero India to be held next month.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/bbmp-developing-alternative-road-to-international-airport/article1125926.ece