Commuter rail update/way forward meet

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Commuter Rail
21 Apr 2012 08:00
21 Apr 2012 09:00
Asia/Calcutta

We meet 8AM, Saturday, 21st April 2012 at Fredom Park to discuss commuter rail progress so far & next steps. Do come. 

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Any phone-in number?

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I am out of Bangalore on that date!

It would be great if you can create a sabse bolo conference, so that all interested people can join. http://www.sabsebolo.com

They have just local numbers to dial (Bangalore (+91) 80 67224444)

 

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it will be outdoors I am not

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it will be outdoors I am not sure phone in will be effective nevertheless will send you & syed a conf number. 

Here I confirm my

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Here I confirm my participation on 21st @ 8 AM.

 

idont spam can u give ur no ?

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idont spam can u give ur no ? my no is 94484 71725

Meet

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Here I confirm my presence, my no is 9964633383

Hkg

See you all at 8AM tomorrow

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See you all at 8AM tomorrow morning at freedom park entrance on seshadri road

Any meeting updates?

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I could not make to the meet. Any updates from the meeting?

@ Vasanth, yes we did had a

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@ Vasanth, yes we did had a good meeting. hemanth, siraj,sathya,sanjeev and chitnis and myself attended the meeting. Sathya/Sanjeev updated the situation...RITES will submitt the report by this month and got to wait till then.

@kamalakar - Thanks for the update

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Thanks for the update Kamalakar. Eagerly waiting for something to happen on this front.

Will RITES report ever be submitted, reviewed and acted upon?

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Kamalakar,

Thanks for the update. We have been hearing about RITES report for more than 6 months now. But wondering if RITES report ever be out in public?

-Syed

 

Have asked DULT

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Have sent mail to DULT requesting status of the RITES report.

Today i read that Mr.Anantha

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Today i read that Mr.Anantha Kumar blaming center govt. and Muniyappa for not taking CRS forward despite state govt. request...dont know whom to beleive, the later say state govt. has not given any proposal...how do normal citizen like us know ....ultimately we suffer...@ satya/sanjeev : I am sure u must have read this article...

For even minor issues

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For even minor issues concerning the metro everybody from the chief secretary downwards camp in New Delhi. May the state govt please explain how many such representations have happened for commuter rail & who has gone & what is the proposition(ie structuring, nodal agency, alignment, accessibility, cost etc)?

Time for official queries?

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May be it is time to send official queries to all concerned - GOK, RITES, SWR, Ministry of Railways, Railway Board.

kamalakar pandit, Hemnath, need your help. PM me your email addresses along with phone numbers?

-Syed

 

Planning timetable

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Assuming, distance between Sivajinagar and Whitefield is 20 km, how is the timetable planned? Early in the morning traffic is less and buses can travel at full speed and can cover the distance in half an hour. At 9 o'clock, the same distance takes 1 hour to cover. If there should be a bus every 10 minutes, early morning 3 buses are enough each way, but at peak hour, there should be 6 buses. If there is traffic jam, and time to travel is 2 hours, the waiting time for commuters increases to even 1 hour.  This is one reason there are less buses in evening peak hours. This may not be a problem in smaller cities, and shorter routes of say 5 km, which is small compared to speed of the bus.  My maths needs needs improvement, so somebody could put more order to this.

The solution is CRS!  With CRS, there will be fixed capacity and waiting time is reduced and predictable unless the trains are too full.  Even the slow traffic movement is because of lack of capacity of roads, which will increase with CRS. 

What is left unsaid says a

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What is left unsaid says a lot more than what is said :)

Along with Metro Rail soon there will be a bus rapid transit (BRT) corridor from Hebbal to Silk Board junction. A proposal for a commuter rail system is also with Department of Urban Land Transport (DULT). Do these systems have the potential to compete with Metro Rail? Can all of these co-exist?
The decision is based on a traffic survey and we are part of the decision-making process. The traffic density in the corridor presently justifies a BRT system only. Over a period if the people per hour per direction (PPHPD) increases to above 15,000 all along the alignment, we could think of an investment in a metro system. Until then, BRT could be the answer. We could easily transform the BRT corridor into a metro corridor if required. Public transport systems shall work in harmony and investment will be made by the state only where there are justifications for doing so. The state has an institutional mechanism for doing so — the Bangalore Metropolitan Land Transport Authority (BMLTA), which is headed by the chief secretary. DULT is the directorate concerned with urban transport systems, and is as much a promoter of metro systems as is BRT and other modes, including point-to-point bus transport systems which we have in good measures today.

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