not - so - NICE excesses

we have said it here on numerous other posts - we need to know it all, both side's of the story. The framework agreements, status of progress/delays from NICE side, NICE's basis for all accusations, and KA govt's defense.

Some other reports in the past had 'claimed' that NICE had less than 7000 acre excess land. This PIL (as reported by above TOI news) says 8000 acres? Are these numbers a joke?

I am very interested in knowing how they decide how much land is really needed to build the expressway. Actually, do we have expressway standards (idontspam), does IRC have anything? These PILs may end up setting these (lane width, distance of service road from main lanes, setback of service road from the fence, width of carriageway etc.

However, most of the land in "dispute" may be for the townships, and not expressway. I am not sure. Nobody is, this project is like a black-hole, information only goes in, never comes out!

No ids, no. Definitely don't expect land requirements to be stated directly in IRC. But that can certainly be deduced from expressway standards if they exist, carriageway width, lanw widths, emergency lane buffers, setback of service road from main lanes, and setback of fence from main lanes or service roads (expressways in India would certainly need to be fenced) - all this should give you the width. This multiplied by the length should give you the minimum land required for an expressway, righto?

I just wanted us to get some sense of these numbers - what exactly do 8000 or 7000 acres mean for a 134 km long expressway?

Yes IDS. Land is for expressway + the townships. But at least the expressway part should be clear via standards. Township needs - don't know if there would have been a formula for that, but thats a good question to ask - how they arrived at the numbers.

We have heard and read ESG/Leo Saldhana's story. We have been reading small drops of information in these news reports. But haven't heard NICE's story well enough. Can't be that they don't have a defense or "spin" on this excess land row.

On the job - will hunt his contacts and organize a Praja meeting. BTW, don't brand me pro or anti NICE yet. I only want to know, know it a little deeper than these newsmedia reports. Just curious.

These large PPPs, neither here or there. Our state must to learn to perfect them.

According to initial proposal there would be an expressway between BLR & Mysore, a PRR around BLR and 5 townships. Bidadi, R'nagara, C'patna, and two near Mysore. What raised flags was when NICE sold lands for acquired for PRR(including interchange) for the machine tools association for a convention center near tumkur road. since then a slew of projects have been announced along the PRR including a film city and a park, not mention sites and rehabilitation of land losing villagers along or in the vicinity of the PRR. That is the critical question. How do these lands figure in the expressway, PRR and township scheme? IIRC all the recent petitions have een for lands around the PRR. none of the recent petitions for townships.