Meeting with Praveen Sood on Parking issues, moved to Sep 25

I think enough questions have already been raised.

One question (discussed previously) is to enquire the possibility for RWAs /shop assns /comml bldg assns to enforce parking restrictions & parking fee collection within their areas. Though this may be a subject for BBMP, we can enquire about what BTP has to say.

1. what is the enforcement plan to restrict two wheelers to park in their own reserved lot.

Most of the time, they park in four wheeler slots. This leads to further chaos as the four wheeler will  try to squeeze  in leading to heated arguments when removing/entering.   

Does BTP have any plans to have physical dividers near the junctions where the traffic diverts to different directions. 

Ex:  Near Junctions as shown below, traffic moving towards right will be on the left lane and thus blocking the entire traffic which has to move straight. 

Build dividers so as if they end up in the wrong lane, the vehicle should not be able to take the turn.

Too strict laws are difficult to enforce, bad for society. Dividers to enforce lane is bad idea. In my area i regularly park my car under a no-parking pole. Wide road, less traffic but still why no parking there? So here are my questions:

1. What is the procedure to remove unnecessary and no-longer-required no-parking signs?

2. Wheel clamps they started use to lock cars parked wrongly is a good initiative. Less effort for police and no damage to cars during towaway too. What is the status? How is the response? Clamp notice tucked to car wiper is only in English, it should be in Kannda too.

Had called Mr Sood's office this morning to double check. It seems today is a government holiday, and as a result our meeting is postponed.

Will reschedule, but let us keep the topic going. Like the picture from RS above shows, BBMP or Police need to take this parking problem a lot seriously.

I dont know if its clear from the picture - but the cars parked belong to `Maruthi Driving School'  - which is  why I think there is no hope. On some earlier occasion when I was passing that way I asked a student, who was in one of the parked cars in the driving seat, what the blue sign with a red line accross meant - he very happily said -` No Parking' without even realizing what he had done ! I went in and asked the people if they teach Rules of the Road - they proudly said - `Yes they do !'. Then I asked them why their cars are parked before the No Parking sign - they claimed they had permission from the police. At which point I left.

Ramesh

I will join.

K.V.Pathy

Thanks for the interesting updates from the meeting..and the clamp thing is indeed a very good move..but unfortunately with past experiences  was wondering if govt really got 1 crore Rs for the 50,000 cars clamped in a month..thats loads of money..

Coming back to parking issues..permits for area wise parking should be an interesting project that corporators can take on..if not all areas it can be piloted in well defined localities like Jayanagar..where street parking is a complete nuisance especially around the Maiyyas restraunt and near Adigas (wonder if a coffee can justify the queues there)

I pity the residents there who have to face the ruckus every day and night because of coffees and rave idlis..!!

Same will be the case in other places like Malleshwaram too..

All we need a strong progressive corporator who is open to thoughts..anyone knows someone?

Traffic has reduced

I don't think that's what Mr Sood said, or meant to say (Traffic can't have reduced, even with improved ridership of Volvo's, since it's getting more than compensated by the addition of another 1300 vehicles a day onto the roads). What he said was that whereas gridlocks were a regular feature earlier, they have become rare now, because of better traffic management. And, ungrudgingly, the credit is due to him for effective use of technology in this regard. In fact, he gave us a demo on the large screen at his side of the live traffic flow at the important junctions across the city, as also on the ready availability of data compiled under various headings.

Very much as Mr Sood stated, policy making does not come under his domain - only enforcement of laws drawn up under policies decided by the elected bodies. But, he has his opinions alright, and most of them are in agreement with those of 'prajagalu'. And, it's upto the prajagalu (citizenry, in general) to mould public opinion, which will then eventually get reflected in the netas' thinking too.

He expressed specific appreciation of the role being played by PRAJA, amongst others, in this aspect.
 

Thanks for asking my question about clamps. Law and enforcement are different, a strict law makes enforcement difficult and increases corruption. Clamps reduced effort required for enforcement, thus law becomes more effective.

Paking fees should be applicable only for 4 wheelers. This is politically correct as we can say only rich car people are levied parking fees - and thus very less opposition from public. Car parking is a problem, two wheeler parking not causing so much problem. We could have suggested it to Sood, though he doesnt have power but he can definitely recommend BBMP regarding this.