Grade separator projects across 7 arterial corridors

Thanks for posting this, I support making corridors signal free. I wish they do corridor improvement and include pedestrian, cycle and dedicated light rail/BRTS lanes along with this. If these facilities are not provisioned for it will become expensive to change later.

I feel like weeping!  BBMP can only see our city as a network of roads.

IDS - if you can get permanent residency in Sweden, I suggest you take it :) because you will not like what you see here.  BBMP is making a mess of our city.  Only an earthquake can save it now. 

Knowing BBMP's execution capability and capacity this will make our lives miserable for the next 3-4 years and then leave a permanent scar on the city.  Look at Bellary Road - the construction of those underpasses is so poor that they tilt sideways.  Wide roads with no lane markings, no uniform width of the road, etc.  The whole road looks so ugly and bare.  Or please see Seshadri Road and how ugly and uneven they have made it.

Take the Hosur Lashkar Road flyover.  All the traffic will pile up at (the old) Ashok Nagar police station after Vellara junction.  No details of pedestrian crossings, pavements,  Where will the Metro come up if indeed E-City is part of the plan?  Is the road wide enough to accommodate these underpasses? 

Or the Airport Road stretch. What happens when all this traffic goes past Vellara junction.  How are people going to cross Richmond Road?  What happens at Marathahalli Bridge? 

When the keeper of the city becomes its worst enemy then there is no hope.  Ironically this comes a few days after we do Mobilicity.

Srivathsa

All these intersections are choked beyond belief.  So something to get relief is in order.  However, given our past experience, the chances of a screwed up outcome is extremely high.  The  question we should ask ourselves is - how can we get the BBMP to engage with citizens where we can review their plans and offer constructive suggestions before the DPRs are tendered and digging starts.

We discussed in earlier thread the short thinking of our planners in building flyovers and underpasses. So many important junctions are still lacking properly planned flyovers. 12 combination flyovers are very minimum in Bangalore.

As Srivatsa says, our poor driving habit on top of this leads to even more problems. Again, during the construction of infrastructure projects like Metro, flyovers, the quality of roads below that is not maintained which leads to slow moving traffic resulting in volumes build up and ultimate choking. Traffic Police or BTIS has to be tough with BBMP / BDA / BMRCL during underpass or flyover construction for the maintenance of the quality of roads beneath it.

On top of this, long wait in signals of 180 seconds which in turn will pile up traffic volumes. Earlier manually operated police booths were far better than the current traffic lights.

Can this be done:

For imposing lane discipline, can cones or police barricades be placed on lanes on some important roads and monitored for few days.

Trial run of Bus Lanes on Important Roads

Reduce traffic light waits from current 180 seconds to 60 seconds with 15 second cycle.

 matters..cos this will decide if we will have a shabby magic jobs or a clean fast solution like the mysore road flyover..though even there govt blotched the project by dropping the down ramp on SP road ubruptly!

Dunno why CMH road has been made a mess for so long by BMRCL or the Bombay store decided to move out of MG road..but the metro work by NCC and L&T on north road is amazing..

They have really planned it out well..the road there is very usable and neatly asphalted..and the traffic junctions have private traffic mgmt folks working round the clock to control traffic..very impressive!

and apart from these..their engineering skills are unmatched..mysore road flyover is still one of the best in constuction..and all that was done in record time!

Get the right people doing it and monitor it well..we spend a lil more..doesnt matter..if the job gets done well!

Did I hear TBM's for underpasses??

Let us talk with Data.

Like it or not, with the Advent of Magic Boxes on Bellary road, the out cry of connectivity to new airport diminished. The Fact is that it has greatly contributed to the reduction is Travel Time to reach the Airport. Definitely it could have been Engineered and Executed a Lot Better. i would like to generalize the last statement to most Infra projects in Bangalore; be it KR puram hanging bridge, Hebbal Flyover ...

 In my view , it is impossible to have BRT on bangalore Roads (not wide enough for BRT). Implementing Bus Priority is a day dream, given the record of our present conditions. Come to the ORR, you find The Traffic Police barely able to Manage, the maxi cabs, autos, Bus Bays hardly used and public converting Traffic Signals to BMTC stops and the ever growing traffic pile up.

As far as Better busing, although Vayu Vajras sounds great in theory, the number of air passengers using it to reach the airport is very very few. It appears that Bangalore prefers Door to Door pick up and drop.

Regarding Pedestrians Getting Hit, Forget Highway or Single Free Roads, Crossing even our Common 60ft Roads, Walking inside my area Main Roads is also big risk today. Even the Humps don’t deter much . some one was stating this as the "mentality of the current generation". sometimes i feel the traffic chaos has made the people mad.  A total overhaul required in the change driving sense of people.

The total of Pedestrianization, Better Driving common sense should be Separate thread of Discussion.  the idea of Traffic Marshalling  presented by Murali Sir is a good step towards managing this menace.

Going back to the subject, i believe Bangalore requires some grade separators. it seems to be necessary surgery. We need to work on it success how it can be as painless as possible for the people living nearby while it delivers it intended results. Knocking it down based on theoretical suggestions may not be prudent

 Although BTIS claim they have synchronized singals all over, except for the KR Circle to Townhall, we do not get any synchronized signals especially on the ORR. Also long signal waits of 120-180 seconds are the major cause of delays in commute. Imagine if one has to wait for 120-180 seconds in each and every signal for a 25-30 km commute say from Nagarbhavi to ITPL.

Earlier manual police operated signals were better than the new BTIS signals which they claim as intelligent signals.

Coming to BRT, although Bangalore roads are not wider, we have lots of oneway roads which can be utilized for BRT. Clear example is the Airport Road, Residency Road, KG Road.

ORR between Silkboard and Hebbal which has got 3 lanes can be a good candidate. Also there are two parallel roads between Jayadeva and Kadrenahalli Cross which can be made one way in opposite directions to get the width and BRT can be done here with two lanes.