Docs related to controlling traffic growth

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have attached some docs related to parking (HU's comments to DULT on their parking policy) and the HU mobility manifesto (in kannada and english), though these docs might be useful for people working on this project.


not sure if this was the best way to attach these docs, so in case its not ok, dont feel upset :-)

HU_comments_parking_policy.pdf630.16 KB
HU_mobility_manifesto_english.pdf126.32 KB
hu_mobility_manifesto_kannada.pdf127.55 KB


Thanks this is it

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This is it, just attach docs to a post using "file attach". Thanks for sharing your comments on DULT pedestrian/parking policy document.

HU mobility manifesto

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The manifesto has many good observations & stats. Whilst all that is said might be true & desirable too, it falls short on solutions in some cases :

Re-route BMTC from its present system centered around K.R.Market, Majestic and Shivajinagar

As we know, efforts are ongoing to shift some of the train & bus terminals out from these hubs. Due to high concentration of businesses, it's obvious that very large number of people will wish to continue operating in these areas for their livelihoods. Thus, correspondingly large volumes of bus /train services will have to continue to & from these hubs.

In fact, though authorities might prefer to shift most of the activities out, it cannot practically be done since people, as the drivers, will continue to opt to conduct their activities at these hubs due to increased business potential, isn't it ? So, how does HU envisage re-routing /reducing only BMTC out from these hubs ? If only city buses were reduced, there will be public outcry apart from increased congestion with private vehicles due to lack of sufficient buses.

Local residents should be given powers to decide on footpaths and fix them

BBMP has been doing a miserable job, no doubt, but do RWAs have sufficient skills to undertake & oversee such works ? Do members have sufficient time to invest on this in every ward ?

Use disinterested experts from academia for technical insights and let people's representatives and people take decisions.

I presume disinterested here means neutral, & neutrality is subject to question marks - who is to decide which party is neutral or which party is not ? HU might consider ABIDe as an interested party, but others might not, after all. In any case, ABIDe is advisory in nature & does not make decisions that are binding. So, where is the problem ?

Statistics from Delhi Metro, released by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation, show that Metro usage estimates are wildly optimistic.

Metro is a long-term, permanent solution for cities. Every project has a gestation period - Delhi Metro's ridership levels have been rising steadily & within a decade, it is slated to become indispensable for Delhi, as will Namma Metro be for bangalore in about a decade.

Unless every locality can access the Metro with a small walk, adoption of Metro by the entire city will not happen. Why pursue such a costly project of questionable utility over many cheaper and quicker alternatives?
BRT systems have carrying capacity that is comparable to the metro, at a fraction of its cost. Stop work on the Metro and consider such alternative solutions like the BRT, before more money is spent.

Can BRT be accessible to the entire city's residents within only a short walking distance ?

By design, Metro does not need to penetrate every locality or area. It supplements other transit modes & relies on feeders to bring & take people to /from stations. Thus, if one can reach a station with feeder bus, the cross-city transit is done by Metro at higher speed than buses for much larger number of people.

This aside, BRT on road surface is far cheaper, no doubt, but HU's manifesto does not explain how & where it can be planned on bangalore's narrow roads to allow for access with a small walk for the entire city's population.

Cess to reduce the congestion on the Roads

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Ravindra's idea of introducing cess to reduce the congestion on the roads is a good move but not at the cost of bringing down the sale of vehicles. Cess should be collected from all the vehicles that enter the congestion zone. Before introducing the scheme the Government should provide adequate public transport facilities for the commuter to reach the congestion zone. It was also said that cess would be collected from vehicle users every year along with property tax. It makes more sense that charges are collected from those vehicles that enter the congestion zone or use the particular road on daily basis and not as a flat rate on a yearly basis. The incidence, burden and the collection of cess ought all to be certain ,clear and well defined. The Government should notify the congestion zones to the public well in advance.