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Anti Corruption Parade - Saturday, 11th Dec

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11 Dec 2010 00:01
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A number of NGOs, RWAs and other citizens' organisations in the city have voiced their growing anger at the depths to which politics in the state has plunged. The recent report from Transparency International ranking Karnataka among the most corrupt states in the country has only reinforced a view that is already accepted by many, and regretted by millions. It is time that we, the citizens of this state, come together and demand an end to this wayward course.

On Saturday, 11th December this year, it is proposed to hold an anti-corruption parade in the city, drawing upon the support of many different organisations. The parade will include costumes and presentations of how corruption affects all of us in many ways - in the form of poor healthcare, lack of education, wide-spread poverty, and many other ills. Songs and other media presentations for the event are also under preparation. The parade is also being designed to facilitate participation by each of the 198 wards in the city, so that WE ALL come together in this drive against corruption.

A list of tasks that need to be performed is being compiled by the organising groups. Will keep updating as and when plans get crystallised. Meanwhile, do mark the day on your calender.

Muralidhar Rao

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message from LokSatta (K) President

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Loksatta has pledged its full support and commitment to making this a well-attended public event. For us, the goal is to use this event to find civic-minded, public-spirited persons across the city who will be partners in our efforts to build a better politics, and also long-term friends in the various causes we espouse.

I hope each one of you will put up your hand, and make a compelling and clear contribution to this event. It is a great opportunity to show what difference an 'active' Loksatta member can make to the world around them. , and I hope that among ourselves we can ensure that there are enough Loksatta volunteers to attend to each of the different tasks.
 

Muralidhar Rao
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Good initiative. Let us

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Good initiative.

Let us identify top5 or top10 places where "common" needs to bribe to get work done & burn effigy during protest/march.

E.g:

Registration (Sub registrar - )

Khata (Revenue Inspector)

Plan saction (Asst Engg, Exe Engg)

Road Cutting Permission

Getting Water/BWSSB/Electricity connection (??)

Birth/Death Certificates (BBMP Medical officer)

Ration card

License (Motor Vehicle Inspector)

...etc

 

Rgds

 

 

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Citizens need to take part every one has to be self controlled..

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 Hello sir,

Abolishing corruption is in our hands, why should we burn effigy of some officials in this name.

If every one may be 90% of the people stop giving money while registration or for police or for Motor Vehicle Inspector, thats enough.

In BMTC even conductors are corrupt , for example that is because of citizens of us making them to eat money.

Eg:

I was travelling from A to B, the charge is 2 rupees or 3 rupees, but BMTC conductor takes 1 rupee and leave you with out ticket. Or Conductor will give a 5 rupees ticket of another passenger who is getting down in A stop but the ticket is valid until B. 

These small things are happening everyday in Bangalore , like if we stop giving that 1 rupee and take actual ticket of 2 rupee or 3 rupee from A to B, the money will go to BMTC directly and service will improve instead of giving 1 rupee to conductor.

 

Like that, stop going for License or registration of lands or Khatas, better you stop going instead of paying them.. else strictly try not to pay.. 

If all the citizens does this. this will automatically abolished.. 

 

But this is India. Even educated people will not follow .. how can we make atleast educated people to do that??? 

 

Suggestion to Praja : we need to read and understand how the other top countries doing on controlling corruption.

http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/oct/28/slide-show-1-the-worlds-least-corrupt-nations.htm

 

 

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anti corruption

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ssheragu

it is very nice to know that anti corruption parade is being held on December 11; I have a few suggestions to make

1.    it is worthwhile that we who are shouting against corruption, should do some introspection; first have we been corrupt at some point of time in our lives; then we should boldly & openly confess about the same in the parade and send a clear message that we have stoped practising corruption in those forms

2.   have we encouraged corruption, by paying bribes at any point of time in our lives ; then we should boldly list the same and take a vow not practice the same in future

3.   since masking facts / quoting false information for gaining wealth is also one form of corruption, we should introspect and list the same in the parade and resolve not to practise the same in future

many thanks

Srinath Heragu

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Corruption

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@ssheregu

Please see ipaidabribe.com.

K.V.Pathy

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bribe

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ssheragu

Mr. Pathy; is it a website or your article;Please clarify

many thanks

 

Srinath Heragu

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Bribe

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Yes, it is a website <www.ipaidabribe.com>. I have also written my experience there.

K.V.Pathy

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Yes jakkura, with you on this

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Absolutely with you on this Jakkura. Those who accept bribes don't drop from the skies. Sometimes givers, sometimes takers - that is our story. There is demand (I want a shortcut, quick), so there is supply (alright, 50 bucks under the table). But yet, we love to pick on bribe-takers. Bribe givers get anonymity, encouragement to recount their tales and what not, but in many cases, not the courage or patience to spend 5-10 minutes extra to get their job done.

I know I will be dinged for saying this, and I have been in the past. Such anti-government campaigns can't do ANYTHING till a corresponding campaign starts on the demand (giving) side. Granted, this approach hurts the poor/ill-informed (who get harassed more), but we, the middle class have built and sustained this bribe culture.

Raise your hands if you declared full and legal value on your last land transaction. And explain why you did not.

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givers - largely helpless

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Well, we have gone through all of this before, and I had stated my case in support of the 'giver' - but, the reluctant, helpless, one, which forms the large majority - check this.

Muralidhar Rao
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Those who will come to the rally

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... are most likely not from the helpless lot. One "no-bribe" day (don't pay, call this helpline for help, that type of thing) may do a lot more good than another "bash the govt and feel good" rally (though these too have their place).

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Rally will disturb a common man

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yes, just bashing govt and feeling good is not that we want.. we have to say no bribe and keep a helpline as said by silkboard.

Better do not distrub a common man in these kind of rallies, already there is huge population and roads are with full of traffic , if you go on a rally it will be a chaos.

Stop rallies.. please..

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Anti-corruption campaign

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As long as it is regarded a game of catch-me-if-you-can, corruption does not induce a feeling of wrongness.

We need to instil a feeling of doing  right.  Until  we (beneficiaries on both sides of the ntable) begin to say, 'This i shall not stoop to" and with the help of peers, develop a sense of shame, we might as well call the C-word " pre-paid gratuity" or some such euphemistic term.

Why this is difficult for a nation of people imbued with intense feelings of piety is difficult to understand.

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What's the point of a rally/parade?

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I have to agree with silkboard and jakkura. To be honest, I don't see the point of a parade unless,

1) We have a tangible solution to the problem we're trying to address - say a helpline number that people can call when they're harrassed by officials. I  believe the Lokayukta already has such a facility (http://lokayukta.kar.nic....)

2) Spread awareness through the rally - people who come to these govt offices should be aware of their options in case of harrassment.

That said, most people (self included) prefer to pay a bribe than run around. We're not basically dishonest or anything, we're just not bothered to take the trouble to report a corrupt person. That's got to change.

Regards,

Rajiv

P.S: I got a ration card made a few days back at Vyalikaval - no bribe asked or paid, though they were very, very slow :D

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U.S. India partnership- open government

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 This will be of interest

http://www.whitehouse.gov....

K.V.Pathy

 

 

ITS NOT JUST A RALLY/PARADE..

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 Jakkura,silkboard, nair and everyone in this forum, 

     The initial plan was just to be a rally demanding for 'Independent Anti Corruption Commission' like the one in Hong Kong, Lets keep aside if this rally/parade can pressurize the Govt or at least add fuel to the different anti corruption events going on across the country... After taking all the comments / feedback from people from various walks of life.. here came out a 'Centre for Gandhigiri" 

'Center for Gandhigiri' is going to be officially launched / advertised during the event.  No need give bribe, you can get things happen.. the secrets revealed with SNNA http://www.nyayapara-andolana.org/

More details of Center for Gandhiri and its objectives will be posted soon. 

Request you all to be part of the event on Dec 11.  Tell your friends/relatives/colleagues about this event. 

 

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