Bengaluru Commuter Rail meet on train

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Commuter RailPublic Transport
16 Apr 2011 06:30
Asia/Calcutta

Agenda: Catchup on current status of the Commuter Rail & next steps.

Venue: YH1 leaving YPR @ 0630

Note: Praja Members would be in Last or second to last compartment as usual.

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meet on april9

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i am scheduled to be out of city around this date. i can cnfm participation if its 16th

Moving to 16th

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Moving this to 16th, let me know how it will work for the rest. Drop in a comment on this thread confirming your presence. Train leaves YPR around 0630 and will return by 0930 with 15 min break in Hosur. Can board in between at Lottegolahalli, Hebbal, Banaswadi, Bellandur, Karmelaram, Heelalige or Anekal.

Apr 16th works better!

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IDS,

Apr 16 would work better as it gives more time for people to plan.

 

-Syed

Karmelram? What is it?

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For the past few weeks now, I have been using this station. It saves money and time as I don't have to go all the way to the city railway station, which is an ordeal by road during peak hours- said Kartik Kumar, an IT professional and a regular commuter.

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Apr 16th Iam OK

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Hi all,

   I will join the meeting in the Local service @ Banaswadi . Timing is so good that we can go back to business as usual after this trip.  Anybody from Kaggadaspura / CV Raman Nagar area who can join me .

   And how do we identify each other ?

 

With warm regards,

Raja Selvaraj

 

 

 

Some of us will wear black

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Some of us will wear black caps with Praja logo, usually we occupy the last compartment, will leave contact numbers here as comments closer to the event date.

16th is fine for me

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i can do 16th.Logiostics?

You can board at your nearest

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You can board at your nearest station, the closer to YPR the more time we get to talk. Identify your nearest station on the YH1 route from the list in one of my comments above. Dont everybody forget to buy a ticket to Hosur. Feel free to leave comments here for a car pool. Myself & Sanjeev might board either at Lottegolahalli or Hebbal station anybody in the general area can join us there

I will try to make it

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It is early enough and I have been MIA for long.  Will be a good chance to meet everybody.

IDS - 9th or 16th?

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Early in the morning is convenient enough to join on either days. Wanted to confirm the date.

16th

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Edited the original event post to reflect the change.

16th, looking to see more people

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People who r  staying near to the stations on Yesvantpur to Hosur segment can join in the morning and can  have good discussion on the subject with nice coffe / tea at Hosur station. 

 

 

meet on 16th

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i will be boarding at hebbal. since i hv not met anyone in the group it is better to notify coach  number from hosur end where we all expected to meet. is there any material to be brought for discussion like maps, previous meeting records etc

will be there, joining at bellandur road station

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Looking fwd to seeing you guys on 16th morning, will join at Bellandur Road station. Last or second to last compartment as usual.

What time ...

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Does train come to Bellandur Road?  Around 7:00?

I will also join at Bellandur

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I will also join at Bellandur

yes 7 am, at Bellandur

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I can pick people up from Kundalahalli or Marathahalli. Exact time at Bellandur is around 7.10 am.

how can I miss out on the action?

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Will board at Karmelram. Anyone wants a pick up along the route from Koramangala, do ping me.

Muralidhar Rao

Great, I got a company from koramangala

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Murali Sir,

I stay nearby you in ST Bed.

Deepak

ride on, right?

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@ IDS - Can you give the arrival schedule at each of the stops, please?

@Deepak - mail me on murali772attherateofgmaildotcom to tie up on the ride to Karmelram

Muralidhar Rao

YH-1 Train timings !

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Station Date Delay Arr Dep
Bangalore Yes.../YPR» Sat Apr 16 on time   06:20
Lottegollahal.../LOGH Sat Apr 16 on time 06:25 06:26
Hebbal/HEB Sat Apr 16 on time 06:36 06:37
Banaswadi/BAND Sat Apr 16 on time 06:52 06:54
Belandur Road/BLRR Sat Apr 16 on time 07:08 07:09
Carmelaram/CRLM Sat Apr 16 on time 07:15 07:16
Heelalige/HLE Sat Apr 16 on time 07:26 07:27
Anekal Road/AEK Sat Apr 16 on time 07:39 07:40
Hosur/HSRA Sat Apr 16 on time 07:55

Courtesy - http://indiarailinfo.com/...

The term YH1 and HY1 is

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The term YH1 and HY1 is unoffical now. It is now re-numbered as 06591/92 isn the morning and 06593/94 in the evening. The term zero indicates it is still running as a special and hasnt been officially introduced for permanency sake

Meeting went well.

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On Morning Yesvanthpur to Hosur Train, we had nice meet with  9 people coming to-gether.

Devadas, Muralidhar Rao,  Pranav, Deepak, Raja, Sanjay, Sathya & myself  boarded at different station on the way.

Thanks to Mr Ravichander  who came all the way  from  Rammurthy Nagar to Hebbal station to met us as he could't make it for the Train.

Mr Deavadas had got the map printed in A3 sheet for discussion.   We discussed with fellow passengers who use this morning & evening train for office travel. 

Mr Banu Prakash  co-passenger was very much impressed about our efforts & he will communicate to his friends on the Commuter Rail. We did talk to many of the people in the train & at Hosur  on the Commuter Rail  demand.

We had one page write up on commuter rail for general public which was in english, distributed to passangers to make them aware that  Commuter Rail  Project for Bangalore & its suburbs is going on, public need to demand for full fledge service. 

Had good coffee / tea at  Hosur station.

Thanks to  all  for making it in the early morning. 

Others kindly update on your inputs & photos of the trip.

BCRS handout

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Here is the one pager handout, feel free to print & distribute/use

 

BCRS Handout

Let us take it forward to completion

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Savjeev, Sathya,

    Iam impressed by the work you guys had put till now . I am HOPEFUL that WE guided by you guys, in this group will be able to take forward this to completion .

Raja

 

 

 

 

CM commenting on Railways - The Hindu

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http://www.thehindu.com/n...

The government had decided to constitute a coordination committee under the chairmanship of State Chief Secretary S. V. Ranganath and railway officials to monitor the progress of works, he said.

The committee would meet every month, it was decided at the meeting, which was attended by officials from the State and Ministry of Railways.

 

 

Good to see that CS S. V. Ranganath and railway officials to mon

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This is good thing happening.  As CS is very much positive on Commuter Rail and he is well aware of the Demand,  looking to see further development on Commuter Rail under the leadership of CS S V Ranganath.

Have we interacted with CS S V Ranganath and others

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Have we interacted with CS S V Ranganath and others in this team .

If not, Is it right time to take an appointment with them .

 

 

CS

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Have we interacted with CS S V Ranganath

Here

Loksatta & CRS

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I am surprised the same party does not do the same in Bangalore, not even come out in support of commuter rail system. Sad really

Did we reach LS formally/informally?

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IDS,

Did we try reaching out to LS for their support?

-Syed

So who reached them formally

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So who reached them formally in Hyd? Murali & Aswin are in touch with people in Loksatta, nothing prevents them from taking up the cause. 

Interaction

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Hi Guys,

Do you have any plans to meet again in the next month & a half as i would be in India during this time?

If no plans yet then request all to meet and discuss further strategies so that atleast by next budget its finds a mention, what say?

When is the next meeting?

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Dear All,

I am a new comer to this group and deeply interested in the issue. I have been doing my own research on this aspect and glad to know about the progress the group has already made in collecting the data, evangelizing the concept and also pursuing with the authorities. I would like to participate and contribute whatever way possible.

Please let me know when the group plans the next meeting. I stay at Yeswanthpur.

Thanks,

Bhushan

 

 

 

data gathering

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Its kind of hard to work with govts in coma. They should atleast be awake.

Anyway most of us are tied up with work & in data gathering mode, lot of SCR/MMTS stuff is up in other thread, more is on the way. Enough fodder around to show this is a bummer, People must want it enough to kick some backsides and get it done.

We can do a face to face meeting early June, if something comes up we can meet earlier. Until then lets talk on the site.

@Bhushan - You can help!

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Bhushan,

Thanks for showing support and eagerness to be part of the NR team. Until the meeting takes place you can help with a trip to Hosur.

Since you reside in YPR, on any weekday mornings, take the YPR-Hosur train and experience the travel in the commuter train. Make a post on the PRAJA with all your observations and thoughts on Peoposed Namma Railu service.

-Syed

Namma Railu - How to gather momentum.

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Syed,

Sure. I will try to take this YPR-Hosur train in coming weeks and report back to the group.

All,

I feel we need not loose hope since we didn't get any support in the recent budget.

I was just reading an email from awaaz.org rearding its recent success due to Web 2.0 tools and social media. I have included it below how this is reported in the press.

Hence, I suggest that we shall start gathering the support from "Namma Railu" on the internet.  This might help in getting Govt attention. If atleast we can get  the "Railways" to commission a team to investigate and report back that can be our initial target.

Thanks,

Bhushan

 

----------- From Awaaz.org  email -------------------


Business community pledges support, The Hindu - Businessline
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/article1628396.ece

Support to Haraze's fast swelling in region, Times of India
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-07/varanasi/29391906_1_anna-hazare-end-corruption-bhu

How Web 2.0 responded to Hazare, The Hindu
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article1685157.ece

Indian govt grapples with hunger-striker, AFP
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gMkMWCDZplyd4VPdiSFHSHe3T2Cg?docId=CNG.cd99c4a336c0b0cca52f7a33775a7f7e.491

India: popular movement against corruption (in French only), France24
http://www.france24.com/fr/20110411-2011-04-11-1510-wb-fr-le-net#

Avaaz – the online activist network in The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/24/avaaz-activist-network-rupert-murdoch

Avaaz feature article, Times of London
http://avaaz.org/times_of_london_feature

 

 

 

 

Support exists

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since we didn't get any support in the recent budget.

That is not correct. Kar budget has explicitly mentioned Commuter Rail will be taken up & Union budget has mentioned any state can approach IR to form SPV's & take it forward. Explict mention of an SPV on the lines of KRVC has not happened in the union budget.

As regards actual implementation, I dont know if it is coma induced or otherwise, forward momentum does not exist. Prioritization & action is missing.

Should we file a PIL with Lokayukta?

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DNAIndia reports a action taken report with regard to "Shirdi Ghatt" road upgrade after the filing of an PIL with Karntaka LA.

http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_karnataka-lok-ayukta-breathes-a-new-life-into-shirady-ghat-highway_1540760

"...Despite several people’s movements, political pressures, media highlights and activist threats, no action had been taken to fix the stretch. However, one letter to the Lokayukta changed the state of things. Now, the rugged road has transformed into a super-smooth highway stretch, without a toll plaza...."

Should we file the PIL for CRS?

Should we file the PIL for

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Should we file the PIL for CRS?

Yes, ultimately we may have to. I can only say "if not now, when?" :)

Write to Lokayuktha

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PIL did not work in Shiradi ghat, but a letter to lokayuktha did the job, that is what the above report says. I dont think we can file a PIL with lokayuktha. We can write a letter to lokayuktha, or even submit one in person in his office. We can take his appointment on some Saturday.

lokayukta

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there is a case for providing convenient/economical and efficient transport for ordinary people which will also save the city from eco degrade.

the powers that be are not keen to go in for this mode for reasons best known.

lokayukta is a custodian of civil society and since we have knocked at all other doors, it is appropriate to bring to his notice first in writing followed up by meet.

devadas

 

WIll write to Lokayukta

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WIll write to Lokayukta & see if I can set up a meeting. In parellel we should explore the PIL track, let me know if any of you can identify a good lawyer who wil take up this cause.

PIL with LA not with Court!

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@rackstar

PIL did not work in Shiradi ghat, but a letter to lokayuktha did the job, that is what the above report says.

There is some correction needed here. It is indeed PIL with LA. This is what DNA reports

In January, a senior journalist, BV Seetharam, had filed a public interest litigation in Karnataka lok ayukta against the principal secretary, department of PWD, and minister of PWD alleging the dereliction of duty regarding the unmotorable condition of Shirady Ghat Road, which is an important link between Bangalore and Mangalore.

The stretch was immediately taken up for a total makeover and it had come back into a motorable condition in less than five days.

Government is indeed in COMA!

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Recent Supreme Court comments about Karnataka Government is in 'COMA' seems to be visible in Bangalore Traffic scenario on daily basis.

Courtesy - Deccan Chronicle

Read Here for more 'Traffic Ka Band Baja'

Let us approach Lokayukta.

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All,

I also agree that we should approach Lokayukta. It seems to me that nobody in the Govt is interested in solving the transportation problem of Bangalore. Let us hope if this route helps.

If we need to go as a group, I am willing to join the team to meet Lokayukta. Before that we may want to draft a letter outlining the issues and what is that we want Lokayukta to do.

Thanks,

Bhushan