Namma Railu

Project number:3110
Opened by:Sanjeev
Opened on:Saturday, 20 February 2010 - 9:28am
Last modified:Wednesday, 9 July 2014 - 10:53pm
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WELCOME to NAMMA RAILU

Need for Suburban/Commuter Rail for Bengaluru makes to Railway Budget Speech in Parliament

This is how the railway minister, Shri. Sadananda Gowda describes in his maiden railway budget speech, 

"..Madam Speaker, as you are aware, Bengaluru with bustling, business activity attracts large commuters from surrounding rural areas and towns necessitating better connectivity of Bengaluru City with its suburban areas and hinterland. Study to Explore Possibility of enhancing the existing IR network of Bengaluru for meeting the above need will be taken up. In addition, to cater to the demand of Passenger Traffic in Bengaluru area, Byyappanahalli will be developed as a coaching terminal..." 

 
In addition, he has announced these train services to give immediate relief to the commuters.
 
MEMU services
i) Bengaluru -Ramanagaram 6 days a week(3Pairs)
 
DEMU services
i) Bengaluru -Neelmangala (Daily)
ii) Yesvantpur ­Hosur (6 days a week)
 
Passenger Services
i)Yesvantpur-Tumkur Passenger(Daily)

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A petition with 5000+ signatures was submitted to the Railway Minister in person on June 29th, 2014

http://rail.praja.in

 

 

 

Catch the latest buzz here,

  1. Discussion on GOK's formal proposal sent to Railways

What NEXT?

The ball is in GOK court now. GOK must start the conversation with Railways to operationalize the SPV and get down to implement the Phase-1A.

How can we make it HAPPEN?

The approval process does take time in normal course of action. However, if GOK specially our Chief Minister can take up this personally with the Union Railway Minister, there is a real chance for early approval to the project. We all can help in that process if each one of us can reach out to our local area MP/MLA and pressurize them take up the issue with both the CM and teh Railway Minister.

Do not have the contact information? Don't worry. Here is the link for post with contact information for all the MPs/MLAs whose constituency fall in the proposed suburban rail network.

  1. Call your MP/MLA campaign for expediting the APPROVAL process

 

Have questions? Email it to "nammarailu@praja.in"

 

QUICK LINKS on Suburban Rail Project

    

 

           

 

            

 

CRS, Suburban Rail aka Namma Railu is a citizens' campaign led by Praja and supported by citizens' groups like Hasiru Usiru, CONCERN (Student's body at IISc), ITEC, Aid India, & BengaluruONE. It also has the support from government quarters like CiSTUP, DULT and recently RITES via its report

The population of the Bengaluru Urban area grew by 35% in the 1991-2001 decade and by about 47% in the 2001-11 time period. In order to cope with this growth the government has invested heavily. BMTC has added 3500 buses from 2006-07 to early 2011. Huge amounts of money have been invested in upgrading roads, building grade separators, the B-TRAC project and most recently for the Metro rail project which will add 115 kms of mass transit (phase-I and phase II combined) for a total estimated cost of 38,000 crores.  However, most experts are in agreement that even with the Metro fully operational, Bengaluru's public transport requirements are going to continue to exceed the combined capacity of BMTC and Namma Metro.  Here is where commuter rail comes in.

To read all discussions at Praja on the subject, use following links

  1. Collection/Book of selected posts on CRS

  2. All posts tagged CRS

 

Initiator: 
Praja RAAG

Bengaluru Commuter Rail Service can be profitable within a year!

Any public service entity would attract a microscopic view of its financial viability. Given the poor performance of many state run transport services and even Delhi Metro, it is not unexpected for somebody to question the financial viability of proposed Bengaluru Commuter Rail Service (CRS), aka Namma Railu.

RTI response from SCR on MMTS

Commuter RailPublic Transport

A few questions were asked of SCR regarding the MMTS suburban service of Hyderabad. Mostly to get a good understanding of how the entire system was rolled out. 

Bengaluru Commuter Rail meet on train

Commuter RailPublic Transport
16 Apr 2011 06:30
Asia/Calcutta

Agenda: Catchup on current status of the Commuter Rail & next steps.

Venue: YH1 leaving YPR @ 0630

Note: Praja Members would be in Last or second to last compartment as usual.

CRS is not in the railway budget of 2011-12

Commuter RailPublic Transport

This morning I woke up to a bad or sad news about Bengaluru CRS. Spoke with IDS over the phone and he broke the news that Mamta's budget didn't had anything to say about Bengaluru CRS. That was really heart breaking. That too after so much work put down by Namma Railu team, Bengaluru CRS was nowhere to be heard in entire budget speech.

Commuter Rail mentioned in the Karnataka State Budget by CM

Commuter RailPublic Transport

55.  The Comprehensive Traffic and Transportation Plan for Bangalore has identified the need to take up commuter rail system within the city.

Facts of SWR claims of tracks over crowded exposed with starting of new Trains

Commuter RailPublic Transport

The railway ministry has announced two new trains between Bangalore Cantonment to  Bangarpet, and between Bangarpet to Marikuppam from Friday.

'Commuter rail service for city still in limbo'

Commuter RailPublic Transport

The Hindu reports that "Commuter rail service for city still in limbo":

BANGALORE: The proposed commuter rail or circular rail for Bangalore, aimed at decongesting the roads as well as offering speedy journey to harried motorists, appears to be in limbo with the State Government and the Ministry of Railways toeing different lines.

CRS Campaign - Email and Letters to MPs

Commuter RailPublic Transport

Having come this far in the pursuit of camaigning for 'Namma Railu', I have started a 'Email & Letter' campaign to all the MPs from Karnataka specially who belongs to the CRS jurisdication and those who can make things happen.

CRS meeting with RS DyChmn Rahman Khan on 29th Jan

Commuter RailPublic Transport

Myself, Naveen & Sanjeev met with Rajya Sabha Deputy Chairman Shri Rahman Khan. The meeting was arranged by Shri Maqbool Siraj via Syed. He grasped the concept & subject very well since he has been talking about similar initiatives for a long time. He also understood the need very well and we didn't have to convince him on the concept at all.

Meeting with Tumkur MP G S Basavaraj on 26th for Commuter Rail

Commuter RailPublic Transport

After going thru' the Demands of Tumkur MP Mr G S Basavaraj, last week for Rail Budget 2011, decided to approach him for the Commuter Rail as Tumkur and Bangalore Railway Track is already double except electrified.

Why CRS Makes Sense? Socio-Economic Benefits Analysis!

Commuter RailPublic Transport

All public utility projects are weighed against the socio-economic benefits that it brings in. Namma Railu - Bengaluru Commuter Rail Service is no exception to that rule.  World over it is acknowledge that investment in public transport system and infrastructure is always a PROFITABLE venture.

Memo to Minister of State for railways

Commuter RailPublic Transport

Sanjeev, Ritesh & myself went to the office of the Minister of State for Railways, Shri KH Muniyappa and submitted a memorandum to the Officer on Special Duty there. Have scheduled a meeting with the minister on 27th of the month after he is free from campaigning for the local elections that are on. See acknowledged memorandum below.

Commuter Rail meeting with Comsr, DULT

Commuter RailPublic Transport
16 Dec 2010 11:00
Asia/Calcutta

Namma Railu team is accompanying CiSTUP this week for a meeting with DULT on commuter rail. Authors of Namma Railu will be attending, and can take in 2 more Namma Railu enthusiasts to the meeting. Please post a comment if any other project member is interested.

Venue, timing and confirmation will be mailed to you once you post the comment.

BCIC submits Commuter Rail proposal to Railway Minister/Board!

Commuter RailPublic Transport

Namma Railu project team will like to thank BCIC for submitting Commuter Rail proposal to the railway ministry at a pre-budget interaction with the industry groups earlier this week. Please refer to the business standard report today (Nov 26): BCIC seeks clarity on PPP.

Planning to Meet with DRM / SWR & With Minister Ashok

Commuter RailPublic Transport

I had met  DRM for 15 Minites at his office  last week on 12th Nov to get the update on the Commuter Rail.  He is very positive on the issue.

Commuter Rail meeting with Chief Secretary, GoK

Commuter Rail

Meeting was called today by Chief Secretary SV Ranganath on request from V Madhu, Principal Secretary to GoK, Infrastructure Development Department to move forward commuter rail for Bangalore.

Namma Railu - Terms of Reference

Commuter RailPublic Transport

At the end of the meeting on Namma Railu at IISc on 30-Aug-2010, we had agreed to work on a Terms of Reference (TOR) for raising a demand for DPR (Detailed Project Report) for Namma Railu.

[update] Revised TOR submitted to CiSTUP from Praja

NammaRailu 2010 Roundtable - Press Release

Commuter RailPublic Transport

Press Release

Monday, Aug 30, 2010: CiSTUP, IISc, and Praja.in organized a round table event, Namma Railu 2010 to discuss Commuter Rail System (CRS) as a mobility solution to enable growth of Bengaluru Metropolitan Region (BMR). The event was chaired by Dr A Ravindra, Advisor to the CM.

Namma Railu Round Table - Minutes of the meeting

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Praja thanks all participants for making it to the meeting & sharing their opinions. Special thanks to Prof.Sitharam (Chairman, CiSTUP) & staff of CiSTUP for their hospitality & for graciously hosting the event.

Comments

Time for a meeting on this one?

Lets do it on the train. Hope its still running. 

This will allow us to get a feel of what we have got and plan the next steps on getting to what we need.

Commuter Rail System for Bengaluru

First we need to have meeting with BMLTA  and IDD  get the latest status on CRS.

It looks BMLTA  is pushing for CRS,  but constraint is   may be without any powers. So we need to get all the correspondence between BMLTA  to IDD, SWR & Govt of Karnataka.

 

IR's policies make no sense

IR is way behind times & totally out of sync with realities - truly an iconic remnant from the license permit raj that will not change, no matter what.

On the one hand, the railway act allows only them to run commuter /suburban trains. If they do run such trains, then they must have very low fares. If 1st class compartments are included, fares have to be about 10 times higher than ordinary class fares (almost equivalent to auto fares), whilst all they provide for the exorbitant cost are cushion on seats.

Will such conditions ever fetch them daily city office going commuters ? No wonder their image is so bad. And no wonder that all commuter rail systems in the country are running so poorly & losing heavily.

In some respects, it's perhaps a blessing in disguise that Bangalore hasn't gotten caught up with such draconian CRS systems that would never have been responsive to user needs & would have posed obstacles for building /expanding a Metro system that is far more in sync with present day realities & commuter needs.

IR does not like to run commuter services

 I spoke to an ex-IR friend and  he says that IR does not like to run commuter railways as they are not profitable for them.  Why are they not profitable - because the IR is forced to keep the same fares as it does for the lowest class of  train travel due to its fare policies.  

You would think this can be an easy one to crack.  But the IR bureaucracy is not to be trifled with.  They can drive a teetotaler to drink.  

They want to put their investments where they get most profit.  Which is okay for the most part, but this profit should not be measured on every service and every route.

Srivathsa

 

 

Drive safe.  It is not just the car maker which can recall its product.

Not as easy ...

Must understand that it is not as easy, BMRC (Metro) is also an interested party as any Commuter Rail plan will have an impact on their plans and projections. To some extent, BMTC may be an impacted party as well.

Anyway, we will understand and share all information, dynamics etc we will be allowed to put up on the website.

Joined, lets begin

Let us plan first few meetings. The candidates are

  • IDD, Mr V Madhu (to get his stand on the subject)
  • DRM, South Western Railway (status on current plans that were announced)
  • Mr Muniyappa (what will it take to get CRS in next Railway Budget)
  • BMLTA (assuming they can help push for it)

IDD = Infrastructure Development Department cell of GoK.

DRM = Divisional Railway Manager, top babu for a Railway Region

BMLTA = Bangalore Metropolitan Land Transportation Authority, mostly powerless

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