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BIAL airport design

I wonder if anyone has seen photos of the Hyderabad International Airport. http://www.hyderabad.aero... Its design looks a generation ahead of BIAL which seems drab in comparison. Even from a practicality standpoint, the lack of multi-level arrival and departure concourses at BIAL itself is likely to result in tremendous chaos.
blrsri's picture

incredible!

Yes, the design seems to be way better than BIAL! I was a lil upset when Praful Patel commented about the 'Industry' look of BIAl. But it seems to be true..indeed the GMR apt is better by design. Multi level arrival and departure is very much necessary for many reasons..including better management of the vehicular and people movement..thats glaringly missing at BIAL.. I can again imagine the commotion that happens at the current HAl airport entrance now happening at the BIAL starting from Day 1.. It is incredibly stupid to have missed on something as basic!
tsubba's picture

BIAL

thanks for bringing this up. early in the year, i had written to them about vertical separation (multilevel), a few weeks later they responded: me: On the landside, BIAL has arrival and departure traffic at the same level and and according to information on BIAL website, there is no separation of incoming and outgoing traffic. Given, the current and projected air traffic levels in Bangalore, this could potentially lead to congestion on the landside and thus lead to customer dissatisfaction regarding facilities and service at BIAL. While it may be too late to achieve, vertical segregation, are there any plans of horizontal segregation of arrival and departure traffic? BIAL: The landside traffic is planned in line with the concept of the passenger movement in the terminal. There is a segregation of the departure and arrival traffic planned on the landside to ease the travel of the passengers as well as the visitors. Hope this clarifies your doubt. basically, road side is planned in accordance to the layout of the terminal. the terminal and the flow itself will have to be altered to fit a multilevel road side. BIAL I think designed for horizontal separation , like JFK terminal 4, which opened in 2001, and handled more than 6 mill pass in 2004, now that was the initial design estimate of BIAL. BIAL is already doing that number and more. the question is does this scale? it is possible that it can still be managed, but it will all depend on the flow of traffic in front of the terminal and how it is managed. BIAL front space is much longer than HAL. any how check the first 400 frames of this... http://bialairport.com/im... 6 lanes in front of the terminal, separated by an overhang in the middle. i am guessing 3 are for arrival and three are for departure. apart from this there is a bus bay. i was trying to understand the flow of traffic but i am not able to get details from masterplan because it is a low resolution pdf. can you make out how the traffic will flow from this image? blrsri.. Multi level arrival and departure is very much necessary for many reasons..including better management of the vehicular and people movement what other reasons, can you explain?
blrsri's picture

my take..

As we know Aerobridges are always one floor high and having departures on that level is logically feasable..our handbags are relatively heavy and lugging them over escalators/steps could be a problem Taxi stands for pick-up can be seperate..where people need not walk far for getting into a taxi..the BMTC volvo's could have come to the apt door step! Security management is relatively easy Relatives/friends management is easy About terminal 4..found this on the net.. http://www.som.com/conten... there is a link for pictures..which shows busses in one level etc..if we are also doing that then its erally good but look at the foto on the landing page which is of the departures section..there is already 3 lane parking/stopping!
tsubba's picture

BIAL

i actually am beginning to like how the flat roof looks from inside.
santsub's picture

BIAL Design

Well well I had written about this to BIAL long long ago. The warehouse kind of look that they had on mind was very disturbing especially for Bangalore which has such amazing buildings. If they had followed a traditional approach that was different too. But the reply I got was none. Guess no body bothers to reply on that site. As far as Hyderabad's design - yes its truly awesome and guess made to handle people movement easily interms of departures and arrivals. But I was looking at Atlanta International (ATL) which is the worlds busiest airport even today - the design is almost like that of BIAL - and they handle 85million passengers PA - single level but very very efficient. Hope BIAL has such a plan.. as far as the inside goes I guess I have started loving the design of BIAL - I agree with tarle - its very nice.
s_yajaman's picture

Other aspects also need to be considered

I think the appearance of the airport is one among many aspects that go into making a world class airport. Changi has a very ordinary facade but operates very efficiently. Immigration takes just a minute on most days, baggage arrives within 5 minutes of the plane landing (the first bag on the belt i.e.). I somewhere think that given Albert Brunner's experience in managing airports, BIAL will have a smoother starting curve than Hyderabad. Every business operation has its nuances and airport logistics can be a real nightmare. The only thing that helps in these matters is having been there and done that. GMR might be a great construction company and it probably shows in the better building aesthetics. But what is their experience in running an airport? Have they roped in a partner who is very experienced in these matters? Time will tell. Srivathsa

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tsubba's picture

BIAL Video

found this video on BIAL at the seimen's site. (~6 mins, features Albert Brunner and Marcel Hungerbuehler(COO, BIAL). mms://media01.erlm.seimens.de/04040701/Albert_Brunner_BIAL.wmv seimens site found this brief presentation by Albert Brunner. contains new drawing of the phase 1 plan. blrsri... that type of thing is difficult to resolve i guess. i would give an arm and a leg to see what BIAL's plans are. mebbe we ought to fill their inboxes with queries. cant get a more specific email than contact@bial
blrsri's picture

what about BEST?

Thanks for the link..was going thru the site and found Siemens has implimented BEST for Luft. http://www.siemens.com/in... Are they doing that in Bangalore?
tsubba's picture

BEST

actually the design itself is based on seimen's modular airport concept. each module designed for 5 mil pax a pop. http://www.industry.sieme... http://www.industry.sieme... i was looking around too, sort of "what to expect". but the search yielded some 500 odd articles. saw some articles. one was related to the wireless comm network that operations will use. i guess BIAL picks from seimen's (damn spell check) suite of solutions. then my stomach started churning after going through some links. now what i found out was that Albert Brunner published an academic paper on Zurich. (see below) Perhaps, he will write one on Bangalore too. BIAL was talking about some guided tours to BIAL, i dunno if they are actually doing it. ---- Zürich Airport Extension Project: Digital Support for Earthwork Construction in 'Digital Earth Moving : First International Symposium, DEM 2001, Manno, Switzerland, September 5-7, 2001, Proceedings', Volume 2181/2001, Springer Berlin / Heidelberg. http://www.springerlink.c... Authors Albert Brunner Project Director Zürich Airport Extension Project (Zürich Flughafen Aufbau) Zürich International Airport, Switzerland Albert.Brunner@uniqueairport.com Abstract The expansion of Zurich Airport is one of the major projects to adapt public transport infrastructure in Switzerland to future requirements. Zurich Airport is not among Europe's biggest airports (currently number 7 in terms of movements and number 10 in terms of passengers), but aims at remaining a leading airport in terms of quality, passenger satisfaction and also concerning environmental aspects. Major facility development will help to overcome existing bottlenecks and to cope with future demands. The latest forecasts for Zurich Airport estimate that the volume of traffic handled at the airport will have risen to 34 million passengers and 380'000 movements in 2010. Compared to traffic numbers in 2000, the growth rate is 50 per cent in terms of passengers. Construction activities for the 5 expansion phase take place over almost the entire airport area. And this will take place at an airport already operating beyond its capacity limit. Due to the delays in the legal and concession procedures, realization of the new facilities has become more and more urgent. A very precise phasing-in, including close coordination with the operating requirements, is essential in this case. For a high speed construction process, the contractors use highly sophisticated, modern technical equipment (e.g. GPS, Global Positioning System, for exact excavation or pavement). Main challenge will be to complete this extension within the tight schedule, without interference between construction activities and the airport operation and last but certainly not least, without fatalities.
thebangalorean's picture

Cruel joke

More validation of the cruel joke that BIAL has played on Bangaloreans' multi-year aspiration for a world-class airport http://bangalore.metblogs...
blrsri's picture

not so cruel afterall..

If we check the complete plan for the airport...its not bad afterall! We are just in the first phase of the project..things should be even better with the next phases! Maybe Brunner/Praful patel could decide revamping the entire design to accomodate 2 level(Arrival/Departure) seperation for the next phase..we have not seen the end of it yet! Also what could be done now is to plant some nice trees there now! http://bangalore.praja.in... What better to say bye planting a tree at the airport itself..I am sure Albert would not object!

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