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Meeting with Mr Tripathy (BMTC)

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A few of us are meeting Mr Upendra Tripathy (BMTC) this Thursday. Unfortunately, we couldn't get to organize this as a broader and open-to-all-who-are-interested type of meeting. But, we will:

  • Talk to him and explore ways of connecting our upcoming "working group" here with BMTC
  • Try to show him as much of the good suggestions that have come up here so far

If you have suggestions on how to get a practical and ongoing 'relation' setup with government bodies like BMTC (and more), please share them. Remember, our theme is democratic. The upcoming working groups will be open to all, and all active members will get opportunities to take part in these type of interactions.

PS: Some day, we will broadcast these meetings live on the site. Lets see :)

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VishalMaharaj's picture

Few points...

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 I always wanted to put forth these points and never knew when and where...

1) What actions are taken on BMTC buses who skip traffic signals... (it is very intimidating when a bus from the adjacent side just swishes in front of you when you have got a go green). It should be very easy to penalise a BMTC driver atleast. Jus noting the route number should help.

2) BMTC buses should always stop right in front of the bus stops(almost touching the footpath, if one exists), and the people waiting should be on the footpath only. 

3) Autos and other motorists should never be allowed to stand in front of a bus stand. this makes the bus to stop far away from the bus stand and the entire road is blocked.

4) All bus stands should have a route map of every bus that goes through the stop along with the timings (if they can keep up, that is)

5) When a BMTC bus is standing in front of a stop, any other BMTC bus should stop only behind the first one and never beside it. 

 These points are only acts of common sense, and need not be written rules. But they become rules in the absence of sense, so that the sense and order prevail.

Specific Agenda

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The Malleswaram Underpass has now a service road which can be exclusively used for buses. I'd like to know if Mr. Tripathy and his organisation would be able to make better use of this facilitiy now.

In addition, BMTC should publish it's schedules on the net and in print in regular so that people could better organise their schedules. 

jammy97's picture

Hi Guys, Its good to see

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Hi Guys,

Its good to see Praja Bangalore being active in taking to civic bodies to improve Bangalore.

All the same, I give credit to BMTC for their efforts in providing better service and quality buses for the public. However, I have the following questions:

1. There are many types of buses in operation - Suvarna, Parisara Vahini, Pushpak, Pass bus and Volvo's. There is a sense of 'too much variety' in the offering. This is not my personal view, but the view of some people who i have spoken to. Is there a possibility in the future to focus more on consistency (in terms of quality) rather than variety.

2. This is a specific case - in Chenammakere Atchukattu bus depot (Kathriguppe), I feel the depot is grossly underutilised. I see more buses parked outside than inside the depot. Even with full parking, this depot can play host to double or even triple the number of buses compared to BSK main bus stand. Is leasing out this space an option considered especially for two/four wheeler parking? Or even allowing part of the land to be used for wider roads or another main bus stand?

3. Another specific case - BMTC promised bus bays to improve the flow of traffic on the roads. However near DG petrol bunk, there are two bus stands having a bus bay. The bay is not asphaulted and the buses are still forced to stop in the middle of the road. Can immediate action be taken to get this good concept working?

Jammy97

Vasanth's picture

Welcome onboard Jammy97

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You are right Jammy, all the bus bays are underutilized. People complain that we want bus bays, but, they never stand in the bus bays to take the bus. They instead come to road to see if 'My bus is coming?'. When I complained the same to a driver in a BMTC bus, he told no one will be standing inside the bus bay, that is the problem he is facing.

Something should be made to make these buses stop in bus bays. Huge investment of bus bays is not serving any purpose.

I stay near CMK Acchukattu and I found the same. It is a very huge land underutilized. Land is such a precious resource in Bangalore now.  Basically lot of people travel on the ring road. This CMK acchukattu Bus Depot as well as BHEL depot on Mysore road can be made like a park and ride centre as well as prepaid autostand (preferrably shared autos with 5 rupees charge) to anywhere near depot. This gives good first mile and last mile connectivity.

This can also be used as upcoming Monorail station since Monorail will pass on ring road.

bangalore-guy's picture

Yelli Iddira ?

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I saw this site : http://www.clinf.com/yi/Y...

And was quite happy to see such a service. But alas it doesnt work. I tried sending several sms's but to no avail.

I would love to see this service functional and it can add a lot of value in getting people to use the public transport. How about asking BMTC on what happened to this service and when can we see it operational.

This can be a great service.

 

PS : A news snippet about the service, http://www.thehindu.com/2..., looks like an old news. Not sure why the service never took off. 

Rithesh's picture

A few more points..

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Here are some of my suggestions/queries-

  1. What happened to the GPS tracking of buses. A few years back it was told that all buses would be fitted with GPS devices. If the buses are GPS enabled, tracking and organizing becomes lot easier. You often see buses with the same route numbers traveling one behind the other in one direction and in the reverse direction you have to wait for long periods (I have seen this happening on the Majestic-Sanjaynagar route often)
  2. The route number display boards should be made better and bigger - why dont they consider having LED display boads (like the ones on the volvo buses) on all buses. These are one time investments and on a long run it should work out for them.
  3. Construction of Bus Bays. You could suggest them to take up the construction of bus bays along the ORR as a pilot project. The ORR stretch between Silk Board and Hebbal has enough space for the construction of these bus bays. The BMTC buses most of the times stop on the middle of the road blocking the entire traffic, especially near traffic junctions. (Does the construction of bus bays come under the jurisdiction of BMTC?)
  4. Decentralization of Majestic area. Like how the Mysore going buses start from Mysore road (near Kavika), other out station going bus stations could be relocated to the outskirts of the city. All Hyderabad and north karnataka bound buses could start some where on NH-7 or NH-4. (Again this may not come under BMTC)
  5. Also there are few buses in which the driver does the role of the conductor too. He himself issues the tickets also. This should be strongly opposed. Not only does this add a lot of pressure on the drivers, they are also forced to stop the buses for long periods of time near the bus stops, affecting the traffic flow.
  6. What is stopping them from issuing passes for Volvo buses?
bangalorean's picture

Small suggestion

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I have one small sugestion for the BMTC director of bangalore. Considering the plan to introduce busses in the bannerghatta road from internal areas to the bannerghatta main road. 1. Have many mini busses from inside areas of bannerghatta road to the main bannerghatta road. These mini busses would ply every 2o mins once or so. From inner areas of the bannerghatta we donot need a direct bus to anywhere in bangalore. Just connecting busses or transit busses. That would reduce a lot of headache for people. I request poeple who are meeting BMTC, to take this point also would be taken in when discussion. I am concentrating on bannerghatta road first and slove this areas problem and think of a plan for rest of bangalore. Thanks a lot if you take this up with BMTC... Bangalorean
Sudhirgota's picture

Proposal for developing journey time contours

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Dear All,

I have a proposal, if somebody is really interested in helping BMTC and provided they are ready to help somebody can develop BMTC buses travel time countours which would actual bottlenecks.

Yep, this would be one of its kind done no where in the world ( i cannot recollect any study). The logic is simple:  we have contours (lines) joining points of equal travel time.  The base statation can be Majestic/ ....

The BMTC buses can provide their journey time ( say at 10 minutes interval) on all roads radiating from bus station. This if collected for consecutive days during morning, afternoon and evening can be superimposed on the map (to some scale) and lines can be joined to points of equal journey time. This would give actual represntation of congestion in specific spots . This is much better than LOS/PCU.... It actually indicates the catchment area of major transport hubs.

It takes time and lot of data (error free) of course ( GPS would do). Put the idea across Mr. Tripathi so that somebody can take initiative. I had thoughts of doing this a long back but had to move out of Bangalore.

 

bangalore-guy's picture

re: Proposal for developing journey time contours

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I am not sure you would need GPS to get such data. Bus conductors usually log the time of journey at specific points of the route. This data can be sufficient, provided that the logs have been filled honestly and correctly.
bangalore-guy's picture

The way we get-on and off the bus.

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Please read : http://www.linux.com/feat...

This highlights a smart card solution for ticketing in BEST buses in Mumbai.

We would like to know from the BMTC as to why we in bangalore follow a method of getting on and off the bus which is so different than the usual. Everywhere else, people get on the bus from the rear door and get off from the front door. But in bangalore it is not the case, only ladies are allowed to get on and off the front doors and the gents are  only allowed to use the rear doors.

This causes huge practical problems:

1) if you would like to introduce a system like the above link tells about, you will not be able to.

2) The bus spaces are not utilized well and the conductor has to keep crying hoarse requesting people to move away from the door and into aisle, but because people want to get down they dont want to move away from the door.

3) The driver doesnt get to know clearly if someone is getting down from the rear door, and many times this leads to mishaps as the bus starts moving just as someone is getting down. 

namma_nadu's picture

why i gave up on BMTC

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